FYI, I don't think checking this river is a bad play, but I lean towards betting this river the way the hand played out in my scenario.

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Limp from this position with KK47ds is not the greatest play, I do this only when I'm bored and I don't need to pay bills next months. Easy fold because of your position and negative potential pot odds. It's hard to calculate potential pot odds (PPO) and negative potential pot odds (NPPO), but in my experience in full ring game from MP with KKxx your NPPO will be higher than PPO. That means that you will lose in long term more than you will win even if you will hit the board.
This hand is actually garbage, but if you want to play paired d suited hand then get some balls and raise pre, it will increase your fold equity on flop and turn if you hit board like this.

What an easy game.

I googled, sorry this one. I meant implied odds. I left poker for for 5 years now I'm back and still have some issues with poker terminology

Yeah, this is a fold pre in my opinion... Considering equity in this situation is interesting if you're the type of person who likes to bang your head against hard flat surfaces.

There are hand combinations where position and action (in the above situation) don't matter... This hand isn't one of those.

On a the lighter note, this hand has three shots at flopping quads.

Yeah I emailed support to see how they do it. The rankings are based upon hot/cold equity assuming you are against a “good hand”. In six handed Omaha this was solved by iteration to be something like A4JT. There are limitations but I think it’s a decent start. Have to adjust your thinking to reflect equity realization and reverse/implied odds.

KK74ds according to PPT has a rank of 14. And the PPT rankings as I mentioned above are showdown but assuming you are up against only "good hands". KK is going to have some realization of equity problems and in general I consider this holding to have more reverse implied odds than implied.


Even on a rainbow 239 board the KK74ds is an underdog to just one top 15% hand

For comparison, KK54ds has a rank of 6. Think this hand needs better low cards with it. That said I don't love or hate any of the three preflop actions but I probably just fold pre.


I raise flop

Pre-flop: None of your options are a big mistake. I would still fold. You have a marginal hand that isn't going to give you the nuts most of the time. You won't know where you stand. And your position is horrible. I would raise it from CU or BU but fold it from other position.

Flop: It is the clear mistake. You have to bet/raise.