Trying to pick up a new game and will hopefully be spamming some LO8 hands once every few days. Only reads I have are the coldcallers are looose and passive. Donk the flop? Call the turn? Raise the turn? Comments on all streets welcome.


Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 8 players
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Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is SB with K 9 Q T
2 folds, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB calls

Flop: (10 SB) Q A 9 (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls

Turn: (7 BB) T (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, CO bets, Hero ???

Firstly fold preflop and basically never call a raise OOP in the SB with four big rainbow cards, whether its 3 handed or 10 handed. In a limit game they are just not very good hands because you can't get paid enough when you hit the proper board texture you need (which is relatively quite rare)

Secondly with two pairs less than aces up (on ace high boards), whether there was a preflop raise or not, you should always be reticent to put any money in at all. If I somehow got into this palava, I would be check folding the flop, although it might appear to be an OK flop.

Vs a likely range of Axxx and someone in there with a JT and someone in there with a flush draw, your hand stinks. Even though you're getting ridiculous odds to call one bet you're better off giving it up because it has got so much reverse implied odds.

Most likely your only outs are 3 jacks and even if you hit it on the turn, you could still lose to a diamond or board pair.

fold preflop

Hero, in the small blind, has a rainbow one-gap ace-less rundown hand with no low possible. While it's OK for Omaha-high-only, it's honestly not a very good starting hand for Omaha-8, probably in the lower fourth of Omaha-8 starting hands. And you're "out of position" having posted the small blind.

Meh. I fold to the raise. It's an easy fold.

I would have folded this dog pre-flop. Having not done that, here is a good place to fold. That's in spite of the fact that you have flopped bottom two pairs and probably have the best hand if the game stopped right here. But the game doesn't stop right here. If you continue, it will get harder and harder to fold and you're likely to end up losing.

As predicted, now you face a more difficult decision. The pot size is bigger and you have picked up a couple more outs to a full house. The trouble with the full house draws with an ace on the board is if you make
a full house, you often will lose to a higher one. Not often enough to fold if you actually have a full house, but often enough to fold if you're still drawing for one.

Fold.

Edit: I had not read the other comments when I wrote my reply. Glad to see they both agree with me. This one is not even close. It's a fold all the way.

Buzz

With 4 opponents in for two bets and a hand that will usually scoop when it wins, and a discount to get in, I will definitely take a look.

There are enough flops you can nail with this hand (and where position won't matter much), to make it worth a shot. Though in this case he happened to get one of the trappiest flops possible.

In fact I kind of WANT to be out of position in this hand so that I can checkraise either the flop or turn when MP1 c-bets and/or 2-barrels the KKTx board (which everybody nowadays will do).

It aint gonna win everytime, but it will win more money when it wins than the run of the mill suited Ace-low kind of hand.

Fold preflop. The 9, and so on, sucks.

Hands like that tend to compound mistakes and are major leaks. Be that as it may, I might defend my BB with it vs good odds, or even button with 6+ limpers, but I really need to see two face and no ace on the flop. That pretty well much eliminates anybody who wants to play unless they have a better hand than you.