I have been playing a lot of heads up HORSE lately and it has been going great in all the games excluding o8. I am a competent PLO player and am just really struggling with this limit/split variant. If anyone can offer some help it would be most appreciated.

preflop questions:

1. I am playing around 80vpip/55pfr, is this horrible? I am rarely folding the button and raising it for the most part. I am not 3betting from the BB frequently. Is there something I should be adjusting?

2. How strong are hands like 2578r, KK28r, TT24r? Should I be 3betting these from the BB, is raising these OTB overplaying my hand?

postflop questions:

1. I am spewing post flop calling down knowing I can not scoop with either a medium strength high/low hand, is there a way good or simple method to avoid this?

2. Should I ever draw to a backdoor low to a flop c/r or cbet OOP? What if I have a nut gutshot/backdoor flushdraw/middle pair w/ overs?

These are pretty good questions. I'm a bit dissapointed this post didn't get any love. I've been playing a bunch of o8 hu sit n gos as of late so here goes ...

This all sounds about right to me.

The rainbow versions of all three are in the bottom 50% of all hands, according to the propokertools rankings. This came as a surprise to me; I definitely raise them all from the button. Perhaps this is a mistake, KK28 is pretty tough hand to play postflop if you don't hit a set. 3-betting is probably spew.

Hmm, stop calling with medium strength one way hands.

Generally no, but I'd probably peel a card if I had everything you listed (and it was a good low draw).

Many of us are currently playing in the forum-wide heads-up pot-limit Omaha-8 tournament. That may explain the dearth of answers.

Buzz

Also, numbers don't mean as much HU IMO. Instead, constantly adjust. Play the player.

sry bout the hijack, but can I still enter that or no :P

I am doing okay heads-up playing VP$P/PFR of 87%/30% and 38%/20%. W$WSF is 42/45%. I got to SD 47% of the time. W$SD is 38% from both spots. I win about 0.035 BB/hand HU.

I looked at the amounts won/lost per hand vs. hand rating (Hutchinson ratings). I only have 1775 hand worth of data HU, so I lumped LO8 and PLO8 hands together. I lose money on the 60% of hands below a rating of 10. Average loss is 0.5BB/hand. (Obviously, I lose chips on every hand that I fold PF when HU.) I win money on the upper 40% of hands, especially the top 15%. It is important to play those middle-rated hands aggressively, since you may have the best hand, and also so you get paid off when you have a very strong hand against his average hand.

If your opponent folds too much, raise every hand you are going to play, (and maybe bluff raise a small fraction of worthless hands, too).

Effen

HU specialists might be tougher at O8 than the STT donks that I face. I do very well in the O8 rotation HU, where some of the holdem players are completely lost. I am wondering if your PLO experience is working against you at O8 in terms of hand selection.
Are you 3-betting because you thik villain is raising light? Often they have one or two Aces when they raise PF, and this cuts the equity of your big pairs quite a bit. I mostly save my 3-bets for AALx and A[23]Lxs hands.
2578r has no high-card strength, except for the str8 possibilities that will usually enable a better low. I cringe about completing the SB with this hand because I don't want to play it against any hand that raises me PF. I am a dog to a random hand, and a big dog to any good hand.

Having a low draw adds some EV to a KK hand, but your opponent has a low draw 71% of the time, usually to a better low than 28 low. In that case, your low cards are liabilities. Barely a favorite to a random hand.

TT24 is the easiest hand to play after the flop, but it is only a small favorite against a random hand.
You need to get out on the flop a lot, unless villain is bluff raising everything.
Nut backdoor flush is only about 4% to come in. Backdoor low is about 1 in 6. If these backdoor draws are not to the nuts, they are worth less. Headsup, you are often not getting odds to draw to frontdoor one-way hands.

Bottom line, you have to play a lot of hands, and you have to give up a lot on the flop. It is very unlikely that the flop missed both of you or hit both of you. Play accordingly.

Effen

Slight adjustment:

Backdoor low is about 1 in 6 if you have only two low cards, as is A2KK and the flop is 89T. (160/990)

But if you have three low cards, as in A23K and the flop is 89T, then backdoor low is ~24% or about 1 in 4. (240/990)

And if you have four low cards, as in A234 and the flop is 89T, then backdoor low is ~25% or also about 1 in 4. (246/990)
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Probability of backdoor flush with two cards in flush suit is
10*9/2/990 = ~0.045

Probability of backdoor flush with three cards in flush suit is
9*8/2/990 = ~0.036

Probability of backdoor flush with four cards in flush suit is
8*7/2/990 = ~0.028

Buzz

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Play slightly tighter I think, but not so much that your opponent can button raise your blind every time thinking he can run you over. When you have a really good hand jam to compensate for previous money lost by folding?

if u play 80/55 u are gonna get ripped up by anyone decent.