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Full ring FLO8 (Online) - Top pair, 2nd nut low draw and baby flush draw - Line check Full ring FLO8 (Online) - Top pair, 2nd nut low draw and baby flush draw - Line check

10-20-2017 , 04:17 AM
PokerStars Limit Omaha Hi/Lo, $0.04 BB (8 handed) - Converted at http://www.handhistoryconverter.com/

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6, 4, 2, A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls

Flop: (12 SB) 5, A, 10 (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: (6 BB) K (6 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls

River: (11 BB) 10 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $0.44 (11 BB) | Rake: $0.01

Very loose game.

Thought a flop bet is too thin in a 6 way pot.
Was debating folding turn.
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10-20-2017 , 07:14 AM
I'm betting the flop all day here. Rest of hand looks good. Why were you thinking of folding the turn in a 'very loose game'?
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10-20-2017 , 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichGangi
I'm betting the flop all day here. Rest of hand looks good. Why were you thinking of folding the turn in a 'very loose game'?
no draws were to the nuts except the 2-4 part of my hand, which most of the time improves to second nut low if it improves and probably loses me another bet

i'm thinking it's multiway so gonna need stronger hands on the river to win than if it was 2 or 3 way and i figure a bunch of these guys are likely holding either 23xx or bigger flush draw. i'm also very sure the turn bettor has the ace high straight.
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10-21-2017 , 08:55 AM
Checking flop can be ok, it depends a lot on opponents, for instance whether they lead 32xx frequently is important and how many bad 32xx hands they play

I would still lean towards betting the flop though because opponents will make many more mistakes when you bet than when you check (including double barrel continuations)

Also its important that you are able to estimate how likely you are to be against better or the same lo draw in this spot, overchecking can be quite costly
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10-22-2017 , 02:09 AM
I would bet flop to possibly deny equity, possibly allow a 23 to checkraise, possibly allow us a free river if turn is high, or to just invest in a pot that we surely own more than 1/13 of.
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10-22-2017 , 02:07 PM
The turn call and river check are pretty straightforward.

I would probably bet this flop. You're basically hoping an early position player will raise to clean up you equity. Checking isn't a huge mistake though.

I also think it would be fine to limp this hand preflop. These low-only hands (no pair, no broadway, no suited ace), even having A2 with back-up, are surprisingly break-even hot and cold even against very wide ranges. So you're really not losing anything by just waiting to see the flop to leverage an equity edge. But again, since they are break-even against almost everything, you're also not losing anything by raising. The choice to raise here should be primarily motivated by how you anticipate the pacing of postflop betting to go.
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10-22-2017 , 10:10 PM
folding the turn would be bad
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10-28-2017 , 03:04 AM
played okay but i would take rich's advice on this one.

i cant stand not betting when a whole table checks to me and i can make something in a hand. in a limit game.

and you had a nut low draw. not so bad of one with so many in. getting 12 to one if called and needing it.
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