Short month, much action.

GL in February all.

Let's boss it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC2ZY2loo74

plies let it be better than January!!!

gl all

This is my greatest confession of all time.

Suitably drunk (ususally not at Saturdays): My morals prohibits me to hunt fish's ass, even I could. Because of that I will never be a bum hunter and a great winner.


Kicking smaller ass will be ok though.

last day of tcoops... the 109 nlo8 hyper should be fun

.^sc

here we go

never mind

Lol. How the f. are you still in that hand on ANY of the streets?

Good for you mate! (Y)

Was this a bad shove? I figured that, since there were 2 people minbetting, they were weak, and I was mostprobably ahead against someone raising on that flop, since I had an overpair, flushdraw/blockers and an OESD..

It didn't turn out great, but I believe I was ahead against most of villain's range, right?

It was a 50$ tournament btw, so not extremely fishy..

Not ahead, more likely you would be in coinflip situation, or a little bit behind.

Just to clarify, this is a hand from 5 card PLO8, 5th card being the Td.

The hand converter screws up the hand history. I tried again, but the result is the same:





I (zeddspectrum) got it in vs 3 opponents, one each with nut low draw + nut flush draw (AdKd2cXX), two pair + nut low draw (A2294) and two pair plus gutter (T4J8X), so all in all I did have pretty much every card in the deck going against me lol.

Top set was 33 % or so vs 3 opponents on the turn.

Pre flop obviously sucks, but I think I played OK after that.

FYP. Why didn't you raise on the flop? You had the best hand, top set.

This is why I don't like these ****ing fish plays!!!!

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation[/URL]

1,086,008 trials (Exhaustive)

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Js 3h Ah Ad	75.61%	766,229	766,229	2,754	476,864	0
9d Jd Qh Jc	24.39%	209,978	317,025	2,754	0	0

Solid Villain play. You only had 75% equity, not 80%.

I figured I was up against big draws and I didn´t want to have $12 behind and be forced to call it off on a diamond turn

I also figured I had some fold equity on a blank turn, which is clearly incorrect against NFD+NLD. The guy with AdKd2x would have made a MASSIVE mistake by folding on the turn (43 % equity or so).

Then again, I´m not sure anybody would have folded on the flop (again, the guy with A2294 called it off on the turn and he had to know he was drawing to a low only) and my equity stayed the same (33 % or so both on the flop and on the turn)

You could make it unprofitable for the others to continue, by potting the flop. For flush, straight and low hunters.

It's less than 20% probability a diamond comes on the turn if one player has 2, the board 2 and you 1, that's only 8 outs for villain. With two players drawing for the flush it's almost paradise , 6 outs max.

Board could pair, and you may get it all with a boat, if the set is not enough. Turn: 7 outs, river: 10 outs. If you are lucky, you have someone with a lower set.

I guess I may be stupid, but I actually really like the way I played the hand

Two guys put in 100bb basically dead on the turn and both of them might have found a fold on the flop with sufficient action

The only "problem" is the fact that I was up vs a guy with the mother of all draws, hence my "poor" equity. 33 % is kinda silly with top set and one card to come, but I guess I still made a lot of bb ((0,33*$120)-$27 = $13 or 50bb ... not too bad for giving a "free" card by just calling on the flop ...)

Haven't played 5 card omaha, but I would be even more scared than usual of being against all kind of draws. Straights being a good example.

That´s part of my reasoning for just calling on the flop. Given stack sizes, I can´t raise all-in on the flop so all I can do is raise to a rather uncomfortable size and hate most turn cards. What´s more is that once I raise flop, action freezes on turn cards I love (i.e. board pairs).,

Given the way I played it, I can safely fold vs action on all sort of turn cards and get it in with massive deception vs minor hands. My best guess is that nobody on this table even thought that I might have top set, hence all those fist bump snap calls by three opponents, one of them being forced to call with his monster draws and two of them drawing dead/super slim for high.

But then again, maybe I´m just a fish lol.

Aaah that seems about right.. however. Turn is a fold, the shove is not extremely bad, also because of implied odds, but you have to hit the board in order to getthe full pot.. Flop call is good play there

With 5 card PLO8 this hand is a Fold preflop. Those cards barely work together and you will be up against much better draws most of the time when you have 5 cards to choose from!

I know it´s a crap hand, so there´s no point in lecturing me.