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09-02-2020 , 11:58 AM
Back again for more abuse...same game, same players...1/2, 100 buyin, pokerrr with zoom, 9 handed. stacks in this hand are between 133-197 (me highest)...I had just doubled up on previous hand.

I'm dealt 2345ds in hijack...four limpers to me. Do I raise? I don't...button calls, SB, ABC, makes it 10 and we see the flop 7 ways. Bear in mind this is very common at our game...

Flop: 3510, two hearts (10 and 3)...so I have two pair, worst flush draw, straight draw and wheel draw. 72 in pot.

UTG bets 22...he is a heavy drinker, and bets mean anything.

UTG+1, LAG who is stuck a ton and on tilt, raises to 138.

I'm next...so I reshove for 187!!!

Cutoff, OMC, goes all in for 125. Oh-oh.

BB, another clueless and transparent player, calls for 179 all in.

UTG folds...no surprise...22 donk followed by fold with only 76 behind...I'm wondering what he had!

UTG+1 calls for remaining 33.

I know it was a very loose and questionable shove...I usually don't drink (have to drive), but seeing as I was home, I had three Chimay Gran Reserves (Blue)...forgot that they were 9% alcohol! Thats what I get for drinking and playing poker.

My question, is what do you think the other players had? Results to follow.
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09-02-2020 , 12:11 PM
Nothing wrong with the hand, I mean sure you could raise but this hand is not pushing equity really and is more of a hit-or-miss type of hand that benefits from high SPR. On the flop the hand plays itself, nothing you can do especially if their ranges are wide.

Why do you think it is interesting to make people guess what someone had? It doesn't matter really. Just focus on your own decisions.
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09-02-2020 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by amok
Nothing wrong with the hand, I mean sure you could raise but this hand is not pushing equity really and is more of a hit-or-miss type of hand that benefits from high SPR. On the flop the hand plays itself, nothing you can do especially if their ranges are wide.

Why do you think it is interesting to make people guess what someone had? It doesn't matter really. Just focus on your own decisions.
Mainly because I'm curious to hear feedback on how to best play in a game where people are playing incredibly loose...at a most casinos, and most tournaments, I'm fairly confident about ranges. In our game, it's almost like I'm against 4 random hands sometimes!
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09-02-2020 , 12:21 PM
Well, you can use propokertools to see your equity vs random hands and take it from there.
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09-02-2020 , 12:37 PM
AAT6 and Q755?
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09-02-2020 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BHDonkey
.same game, same players...1/2, 100 buyin, pokerrr with zoom, 9 handed. stacks in this hand are between 133-197 (me highest)...I had just doubled up on previous hand.
i don't understand.. if 9 players have bought in for $200 then why/how are stacksizes all below 200.

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UTG+1, LAG who is stuck a ton and on tilt, raises to 138.
and who has his "ton" of chips?



utg's stack $10 preflop + $22 flop bet +$76 behind =$108

so stacks in this hand are infact between $108-$197?

Last edited by ngFTW; 09-02-2020 at 01:51 PM.
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09-02-2020 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ngFTW
i don't understand.. if 9 players have bought in for $200 then why/how are stacksizes all below 200.


and who has his "ton" of chips?



utg's stack $10 preflop + $22 flop bet +$76 behind =$108

so stacks in this hand are infact between $108-$197?
It's not a tournament...it's a cash game...and not everyone has bought in for 200...and there are a few players not in the hand that have more...you seem to have misread something here??

Player stuck a ton is stuck on NLHE...because of the way the app works, you need to buy in separately for each game so you buy in 100 for NLHE, and every thirty minutes switch tables. Your stack doesn't move over.

UTG folded, so I didn't bother including his stack size.

Are you just nitpicking, or do you have something to add
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09-02-2020 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BHDonkey

UTG folded, so I didn't bother including his stack size.
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Originally Posted by BHDonkey
I'm dealt 2345ds in hijack...four limpers to me.
so UTG limped (and consequently called the raise by inference)

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UTG bets 22...he is a heavy drinker, and bets mean anything.

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UTG folds...no surprise...22 donk followed by fold with only 76 behind...I'm wondering what he had!
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Are you just nitpicking, or do you have something to add
but, you are correct, it was clearly my mistake responding to a post by you.
won't happen again
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09-03-2020 , 11:16 AM
UTG+1 had: A8910 with nut hearts
OMC had: 3346 with backdoor clubs (one club on flop)
BB had: 27JK, with king high hearts.

Amazingly, I had 43% equity which I found shocking.

Turn: J
River:4

No hearts...I get 77 back on side pot with my two pair, bottom set scoops high, and the player with less than 10% equity gets low with 27 (needed one of the remaining two 4s to win!).
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09-03-2020 , 11:42 AM
Yeah. It doesn't matter what they have, though of course their range matters. Guessing what they have doesn't help you. Just play your hand in the correct way and stop worrying about noise.

edit: and for the record, you played this hand well.
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09-04-2020 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by amok
Yeah. It doesn't matter what they have, though of course their range matters. Guessing what they have doesn't help you. Just play your hand in the correct way and stop worrying about noise.

edit: and for the record, you played this hand well.
Thanks...unfortunately, the bad beats continue in the game...three and two outers on turn or river are absolutely killing me.

Good news is the players are so terrible that I can still break even/squeak out a win despite awful luck. Bad news is I see players who have no clue winning!
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