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Old 12-08-2018, 04:02 PM   #26
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Re: Did I get cheated out of $2000 (PLO8 live)?

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Doesn't sound at all like OP was cheated. 1 outers in this situation happen so im surprised OP its never happened to him.
Yeah, me too. He either hasn't really been playing that long, or has just been rather lucky.
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:06 PM   #27
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Re: Did I get cheated out of $2000 (PLO8 live)?

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Can I report this to authorities/law enforcement?
Can I get my money back through civil litigation?
lol

Taking rake during the hand is pretty standard, but surely there is a cap and not unlimited 10%? I seriously doubt you're saying they took $500 rake in this hand.
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Old 12-09-2018, 10:03 PM   #28
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Re: Did I get cheated out of $2000 (PLO8 live)?

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I agree 100%.
With all the greedy people out there and the advanced technical possibilities to cheat nowadays I would never play in a home game that big. Very stupid to buy in for 2k after you lost your first buy in.
It's also very suspicious that a pro dealer with experience at the wsop deals in everyhand players, who are sitting out. Every dealer knows in cash game get cards only players who are at the table.
Probably they were 2-3 players and the dealer working there and they shared the money
after the game.
Look for "poker cheating device" in YouTube and you 'll see how you lost your money there.
You want to be 100 % sure? Go again play another evening there and look exactly at the dealer, if he always cut the cards in the same position at the table and if always the same 2-3 players win and all the rest lose. After the game ask if you can have the cards you played with, not a new deck, exactly the deck you were playing with. The answer to this question will give you enough info. If they give you cards are clean, if they find excuses to not giving you the cards are rigged.

its like you've been waiting for OP's post all your poker life
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Old 12-10-2018, 02:12 AM   #29
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Re: Did I get cheated out of $2000 (PLO8 live)?

This was my last bigO session (still have nightmares about it and I wake up and say o thank god it was a dream, its impossible to run that bad in real life).

first hand post bb, call a raise 3 ways. comes 68T hh. get in 1500 with A2T89 nut hearts vs 233xx and hearts. comes 3-A. orbit or 2 later get it in v same guy for 1500 each on QTxdd board with QQ and nut diamonds, vs 89834dd and lose to staright flush.

Then we get in 6k 3 ways on K48ss board with KK235 and nut spades. 1 guy has like 44QQx and guy from last 2 has the 2356 and goes A-7 for 3/4

20 minutes later vs same guy have the KKA45 and nut hearts on T23hh K-T board and he has TT .

Then last hand played big pot pre-flop with A2347. comes 237 and get scooped by a wheel.

Sigh. that was like 2 hours in a casino vs a friend fwiw
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Old 12-12-2018, 02:13 AM   #30
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Re: Did I get cheated out of $2000 (PLO8 live)?

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- Game in question - PLO 8
3rd player (lost his initial 600, bought in for 1000) - A234 2 clubs

about 100 in the pot before the flop

Flop comes....QJ5 2 clubs

Turn comes 7 diamonds.

The all-in guy stormed out after revealing his cards. He did say bye though.


Thoughts???
I confirm this game was indeed crooked if they did not give half of the main pot to the nut low.
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Old 12-12-2018, 03:55 AM   #31
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Re: Did I get cheated out of $2000 (PLO8 live)?

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I confirm this game was indeed crooked if they did not give half of the main pot to the nut low.
The flop was QJ5 with two clubs. Turn 7. River Jack. Final board: QJ57J. The OP had Queens full and lost to quad Jacks (a one-outer). The nut low draw missed.
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Old 12-12-2018, 04:53 AM   #32
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Re: Did I get cheated out of $2000 (PLO8 live)?

Iím surprised OP being an Omaha player has never been 1 outed. I can recall every time I go play LO8 how many times Iím 1 outed or the case x card comes out. It happens dude. Just sucks it happen to you in such a large pot.


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Old 12-14-2018, 08:22 AM   #33
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Re: Did I get cheated out of $2000 (PLO8 live)?

I don't know if you were cheated or not, it seems possible but unlikely. A few observations:

- I wish I could not remember being one-outered. It happens pretty often, if you play plenty.

- Reloading for the max 2k seems a strange decision. I would have gone somewhere in the 400 - 600 range.

- Ruling out home games is denying yourself the opportunity to play poker where it is most enjoyable. But you have to know that the game can be trusted. I play in two here in Malta and have become friendly with some amazing people, played some fun poker variants, improved my all round poker game and had some super fun times. Oh and been one outered a few times...

I know a guy who plays poker in Malta (let's call him Pietru) who was previously a poker dealer. He is able to manipulate the deck: obviously I don't play in home games where he deals. Once upon a time Phil Hellmuth was in Malta for a poker festival. Pietru was dealing at Hellmuth's table. Pietru has a wierd sense of humour. He purposefully dealt Hellmuth pocket aces three hands in a row, just so that Hellmuth would remember him and so he could tell his friends. He didn't affect the deal in any other way - just gave him AA three hands in a row. Good thing no big pots developed.
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:21 AM   #34
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Re: Did I get cheated out of $2000 (PLO8 live)?

You want to involve the police because you may have been cheated?

You'll never get it back.

They'll laugh at you and possibly raid the game, arresting whoever they want and interfering with some people's lives.

At $25 a pot the house AND the dealer is getting so much money there is no need to use the cards to take more.
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