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Do you think I got cheated?
No, I don't. And I find it odd that you can't remember being one-outed before. I see it happen to someone almost every time I play LO8. Sometimes I'm the victim, sometimes I'm the luckbox, sometimes I'm just a witness. Middle set makes quads to beat top set: ho-hum. If it were an $8/$16 game at your local casino, you wouldn't think twice about it.
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Can I report this to authorities/law enforcement?
I don't know where this game took place—and I'm not a lawyer—but I'm guessing it was illegal. You could probably get the host in trouble by reporting it, but you're definitely not getting your money back.
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Can I get my money back through civil litigation?
No. Again, I'm not a lawyer. Ask one.
Do you have any evidence to prove that cheating took place? A videotape that shows the dealer cold-decking you or bottom-dealing? An audiotape of the colluders celebrating their score? Witnesses who'd be willing to testify under oath what they observed? I didn't think so.
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Should I confront the event host about this?
To what purpose? He's going to say what monikrazy wrote—that he doesn't need to cheat you because he's making $2,000/week (after expenses) hosting this game. Also, most people don't take kindly to being accused of cheating.
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Thoughts???
You sound like the guy who plays online for the first time, gets unlucky, and is subsequently convinced the game is rigged.
No one solicited your participation in this game—you sought them out, remember? And no one forced you to buy in for the maximum after losing your initial minimum buy-in.
Several of your comments suggest that you went to this game half-expecting to be scammed in some way. Did confirmation bias kick in—in other words, did you find the red flags you were looking for?
There are a couple of factors that made you uncomfortable in this situation. You were playing in a home game with strangers when you're used to playing in legal casinos. You were playing PLO8 when you're used to playing LO8. And you got unlucky and lost ~$2,000 in a single hand when you're probably not used to losing more than ~$240 or $280 in a single hand. But your discomfort does not mean you were cheated.
If I were writing this scene for a movie, the chip leader would get a more legitimately playable hand—something like AJJT or AJJ3. And then I would have the turn be an off-suit deuce, giving the player with A234 11 additional straight outs to go with his nut flush and nut low draws. Maybe the turn would also give you a flush draw—and I'd probably put a suited Ace in your hand to make sure you played it aggressively, something like AKQQ or AQQT. Then all the money would go in on the turn, and on one could be questioned for playing their hand the way they did.
In other words, if I were setting up a cold deck, I'd come up with something better than what this random shuffle gave you.
And if a cold deck is the suspected mode of cheating here, then the dealer's head tilt and possible peek (at what? I'm not sure) are unnecessary and therefore meaningless.