Thanks everyone.
Quote:
Originally Posted by amok
River is a call, because of where you are in your range.
I tried to understand this comment and that somewhat cleared things up.
Correct me, if I'm wrong (still not all that familiar with these concepts).
Where am I in MY range:
Top of my range = the very best hands. Those want to bet/raise for value, while occasionally trapping on earlier streets.
Bottom of my range = the trash. Those want to (semi)bluff, if a (semi)bluff can work often enough, otherwise fold.
Middle (?) of my range = all the "a bit of everything" hands, like this one. Those want to check back or call.
Applying this to the hand in question:
pre: I would place this hand at the middle of my range, so calling is the preferred action.
flop: I would place this hand between middle and bottom. A bluff is pretty much never going to work, so checking is the preferred action.
It is interesting, because I tried to come up with the worst hand, I can have (given my preflop tendencies and all), that I would bet on the flop. Since I usually don't bet this hand, I think it's AJBw or maybe A255.
turn: I'm actually not sure, where to place this hand in MY range:
1) the low is decent and often best, after it gets checked around.
2) I'm blocking a 3, which makes it a bit less likely someone has a wheel
3) I do have a gutshot to the superwheel.
So, where am I? I guess I am somewhere between the Top and the Middle now.
What I realized while thinking about this is:
I almost never have a wheel on the turn, after checking the flop, because I would bet most of my 34 hands on the flop. (Only A34x - 2 and 3456 are left)
I'm not credibly repping a wheel, because of the previous observation, but I am actually freerolling a good amount of better high hands and in my games there is also a good amount of worse lows that find calls. So, the turn can be bet for value, just like I'm betting J7 on 89T.
river:
Looking at toppair no kicker and second nut low, definately middle of my range, so I should call.
It's so weird for me, to call, because of MY range.
But thinking about the worst possible hands that I have at any given point in a hand is really interesting. It's easy to come up with the best possible hands, but the worst ones?
So new task for next week: Place your hand in your range in any given situation xD.
Thanks once more for the input.