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[Cash, Micro, PLO8] Did i play this hand badly?
12-06-2017
, 10:50 AM
Situation: Unremarkable table dynamics. We got one very loose/passive player and a bunch of nitty guys.
MP is one of the regs, I respect the most. In the universe of micro plo8, he can be called a tough reg. Capable of (semi)bluffing, double and triple barreling or checking the nuts. He will also show up with all sorts of hands depending on action/position, but not go overboard. The kind of person, I really don't want behind me.
BB plays very few hands, yet still picks the wrong type of hands, when he plays. He folds too often and overvalues the naked NLD aswell as the naked NFD.
After the hand, I think ... the hell, why did you fold. But that seems to be result orientated. What do you guys think about this hand?
MP is one of the regs, I respect the most. In the universe of micro plo8, he can be called a tough reg. Capable of (semi)bluffing, double and triple barreling or checking the nuts. He will also show up with all sorts of hands depending on action/position, but not go overboard. The kind of person, I really don't want behind me.
BB plays very few hands, yet still picks the wrong type of hands, when he plays. He folds too often and overvalues the naked NLD aswell as the naked NFD.
Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha H/L Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37881761
SB: $2.28 (114 bb)
BB: $0.80 (40 bb)
Hero (UTG): $4.55 (227.5 bb)
MP: $3.27 (163.5 bb)
CO: $3.33 (166.5 bb)
BTN: $4.64 (232 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A
K T
3
Hero raises to $0.05, MP calls $0.05, 2 folds, SB calls $0.04, BB calls $0.03
By now this is a standardraise for me in this kind of game.
MP tank-calls, which alerts me. He might have considered 3betting or playing a kind of "implied-odds" hand that rarely hits, but when it does, it hits big.
Flop: ($0.20) J 5 T
(4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.19, Hero calls $0.19, MP raises to $0.57, SB folds, BB calls $0.38, Hero calls $0.38
First glance: I have a little bit of everything. I think, this is a good flop headsup, but a bad one multiway (I might be chasing in two directions).
I think, BB's leading range is weighted towards sets and the NFD.
I'm not folding MPTK here. If he has a set, he will bet again on the turn, if he has the NFD and the turn is a blank, he will check.
Should I still fold, because of MP behind me?
Once MP raises, things get really ugly. I think, he raises here with sets, wraps and some combodraws. Should I instantly muck? I remember not really thinking this through, when I played the hand.
On the one hand, I was thinking MPTK + T-high FD + GS +BDLD, is too strong to lay down against my estimated raising range, but then there is still the BB in the hand, which means, my clubs are probably not good and at least blocked most of the time (thinking about the sidepot, MP and me are going to play).
What does one do here?
Whenever I'm confused like this, I usually call, because incorrectly folding can cost me the pot, while incorrectly calling will cost me a bet.
Turn: ($1.91) 8
(3 players)
BB bets $0.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.18, MP raises to $2.57, Hero folds
Straightdraw got there and I picked up a good LD. I instacall the remaining 0.18, because the pot is too big, to fold here.
MP raises: I think, he wouldn't raise the turn with anything less than a straight, even thought, he might have done so on the flop. That leaves me with the question: Is my FD/LD good for the sidepot or not? Since I can't be certain and it is in all likelyhood at least blocked, I fold.
River: ($2.45) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
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SB: $2.28 (114 bb)
BB: $0.80 (40 bb)
Hero (UTG): $4.55 (227.5 bb)
MP: $3.27 (163.5 bb)
CO: $3.33 (166.5 bb)
BTN: $4.64 (232 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A
K T 3Hero raises to $0.05, MP calls $0.05, 2 folds, SB calls $0.04, BB calls $0.03
By now this is a standardraise for me in this kind of game.
MP tank-calls, which alerts me. He might have considered 3betting or playing a kind of "implied-odds" hand that rarely hits, but when it does, it hits big.
Flop: ($0.20) J
5 T (4 players)SB checks, BB bets $0.19, Hero calls $0.19, MP raises to $0.57, SB folds, BB calls $0.38, Hero calls $0.38
First glance: I have a little bit of everything. I think, this is a good flop headsup, but a bad one multiway (I might be chasing in two directions).
I think, BB's leading range is weighted towards sets and the NFD.
I'm not folding MPTK here. If he has a set, he will bet again on the turn, if he has the NFD and the turn is a blank, he will check.
Should I still fold, because of MP behind me?
Once MP raises, things get really ugly. I think, he raises here with sets, wraps and some combodraws. Should I instantly muck? I remember not really thinking this through, when I played the hand.
On the one hand, I was thinking MPTK + T-high FD + GS +BDLD, is too strong to lay down against my estimated raising range, but then there is still the BB in the hand, which means, my clubs are probably not good and at least blocked most of the time (thinking about the sidepot, MP and me are going to play).
What does one do here?
Whenever I'm confused like this, I usually call, because incorrectly folding can cost me the pot, while incorrectly calling will cost me a bet.
Turn: ($1.91) 8
(3 players)BB bets $0.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.18, MP raises to $2.57, Hero folds
Straightdraw got there and I picked up a good LD. I instacall the remaining 0.18, because the pot is too big, to fold here.
MP raises: I think, he wouldn't raise the turn with anything less than a straight, even thought, he might have done so on the flop. That leaves me with the question: Is my FD/LD good for the sidepot or not? Since I can't be certain and it is in all likelyhood at least blocked, I fold.
River: ($2.45) 2
(2 players, 1 is all-in)Spoiler:
After the hand, I think ... the hell, why did you fold. But that seems to be result orientated. What do you guys think about this hand?
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12-06-2017
, 11:23 AM
I'd seriously consider folding both times on the flop. Sounds nitty, I know, but there are 4 players in the pot and it's impossible to realize the equity you have 3-way with these "a little bit of everything"-hands.
Maybe you should think about raising the turn? He should be folding away a lot of equity and getting it in is not disastrous. I think it's better than call-getin, but call-fold is not bad I think.
I think whenever you are confused, folding is the best default option.
Maybe you should think about raising the turn? He should be folding away a lot of equity and getting it in is not disastrous. I think it's better than call-getin, but call-fold is not bad I think.
I think whenever you are confused, folding is the best default option.
