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Originally Posted by AllInNTheDark
Isn't it 72%?
Ahh.... yes. I did it by hand and forgot to count board pairs as "high" cards, e.g. boards like K54-4-Q. Thanks for pointing this out.
Regardless, my point is that A2 trying to fade counterfeits on one hand or A23 drawing a ton of outs twice or the other aren't really very different in value, although they might call for different strategy.
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Originally Posted by ngFTW
a2KK on a flop of 876 is the nutlow. when an ace or a 2 turn or river or the turn-river combo is A2/2A 'we say' the low has been counterfeit because it is no longer the nutlow, however it is a "made low" on the flop and when counterfiet it remains a "made low" on the river. so i suppose you meant...your 'nut low' is drawing to running non-counterfiets...
I don't get the point of this paragraph beyond semantics. Yes, on a runout of 876-A-K or even 876-A-2 our A2 can still show down an eight-low (i.e. a "live card" low). I posited an example we're up against A34. On 876-A-K an eight low isn't worth much against a 7643A low. (The A34 could counterfeit a second time, e.g. 876-A-3, but that's rarer than the A2 counterfeiting once.
) Obviously if we were in a different hand where the opponent has four high cards then any low would be good enough for half the pot, but that wasn't the example I chose.
The semantic point is like saying in hold'em, "I had my 87 lose to pocket nines on a 654-8-7 board, but at least I still had a straight on the river!" or "My 76 flopped two pair on 76J, and then the K-J runout improved me to jacks-and-sevens!"