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08-08-2018 , 05:09 PM
Playing 5/5 Big O at Cherokee during the WSOPc and I'm having trouble with this hand...

$10 Straddle on the button and Hero is in BB with stack of $1,345.

SB Calls $10
BB (Hero) Calls $10 with K 2 3 8 8
UTG Calls $10
UTG +1 Folds
Villian Raises to $50
UTG +3 Folds
UTG +4 Calls $50
Button folds
SB Calls $40
Hero Calls $40
UTG Calls $40

Pot - $260

Flop: A 8 J

SB Check
Hero - Bets $260
Villian - Raises $1040
UTG +4 - Raises All-In for $1315
SB Folds
Hero - ??

Pot is $2,875 and hero holds nut flush draw, bottom set and nut low draw.
Here's the sticky part, Hero is positive Villian has flopped top set of Aces. Tight player who only bets the pot when he has the nuts. Knowing this, hero has 8 outs to the high (Any heart not the Jack and the 4th eight) and 16 outs to the nut low.

With the casino rule of only running the board once, what is the right play here?

a) Call entire stack, or
b) Fold
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08-08-2018 , 05:55 PM
Fold pre at every opportunity.

Flop easiest getin in the world even without 88 (that work as nice blockers btw).
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08-08-2018 , 11:19 PM
ya fold pre, jam flop
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08-09-2018 , 06:26 AM
Whether or not the casino allows RIT (or whether or not opponent does it) should not factor into decision-making. If it is, you should be playing smaller.

As everyone is saying, pre is a super super super clear fold pre. Get it in on the flop. Also, given that its 766 ways to the flop, I would think that some aces are spoken for and he shouldn't be able to have top set. Maybe he's such a humongous nit that that doesn't matter...idk...but why can't he have AJ23 that you have crushed? Either way put the money in.
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08-09-2018 , 08:05 AM
Yeah, wrong pre-call, shouldn't have even been in the hand. I got it in and Jack spiked the turn and Q on the river. AAAJJ scooped the pot.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.
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08-09-2018 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RolldUpTrips
Whether or not the casino allows RIT (or whether or not opponent does it) should not factor into decision-making. If it is, you should be playing smaller.

As everyone is saying, pre is a super super super clear fold pre. Get it in on the flop. Also, given that its 766 ways to the flop, I would think that some aces are spoken for and he shouldn't be able to have top set. Maybe he's such a humongous nit that that doesn't matter...idk...but why can't he have AJ23 that you have crushed? Either way put the money in.
yeah can't 100% put him on aa here, and A23J is definitely a factor since even a tight player can be raising say A23Jds with say a 4, K, Q, etc.

i mean, it doesn't change a thing about how we're gonna play postflop, but i think once people play enough 5c, they eventually realize a hand like A23WJds is certainly a raising hand, no matter how conservative they are.
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08-10-2018 , 01:10 PM
You called a preflop raise with junk (big mistake as you have said already), flopped gin, and now are wondering what to do?

It's an insta-shove.

Nut low/nut flush draws on an unpaired/non-straight board are hands I'll get all in 100% of the time. The fact that you have a set as well (which as you said are blockers/one outer) makes it even easier to stack off.
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08-12-2018 , 11:44 PM
Fold pre. But you are never folding on this flop. This is a fost-pump get it in for basically any amount.
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08-26-2018 , 12:48 PM
are you serious OP?
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09-15-2018 , 05:21 AM
BBV is that way--->
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09-16-2018 , 10:44 AM
everyone already said it, fold pre without batting an high, (no idea how a call is in even considered), jam flop.
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09-16-2018 , 10:59 PM
Well, this is one of the more bizarre hands I've seen posted. You call $50 preflop when you should have folded twice in a row, but the question is, what kind of flop were you hoping for exactly? I mean assuming you thought this hand was worth $50 preflop (which I don't think any of us do), then why the heck are you thinking of folding when you flop a near miracle flop? This is very inconsistent thinking. Assuming this question isn't a troll, because this is almost too much to believe.
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09-19-2018 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by the_spike
why the heck are you thinking of folding
because he probably lost the hand and is somehow second guessing himself.

+1 on fold pre btw. you can get away with having no ace in 4 card but in 5 card it's inexcusable unless you are completing the small blind multiway.
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09-21-2018 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by the_spike
Well, this is one of the more bizarre hands I've seen posted. You call $50 preflop when you should have folded twice in a row, but the question is, what kind of flop were you hoping for exactly? I mean assuming you thought this hand was worth $50 preflop (which I don't think any of us do), then why the heck are you thinking of folding when you flop a near miracle flop? This is very inconsistent thinking. Assuming this question isn't a troll, because this is almost too much to believe.
Exactly this.
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09-24-2018 , 05:10 PM
board: Ah8hJd
Kh2h3c8d8s 49.44%
AA*** 50.56%
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09-25-2018 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by KnoxVegas Matt
Playing 5/5 Big O at Cherokee during the WSOPc and I'm having trouble with this hand...

$10 Straddle on the button and Hero is in BB with stack of $1,345.

SB Calls $10
BB (Hero) Calls $10 with K 2 3 8 8
UTG Calls $10
UTG +1 Folds
Villian Raises to $50
UTG +3 Folds
UTG +4 Calls $50
Button folds
SB Calls $40
Hero Calls $40
UTG Calls $40

Pot - $260

Flop: A 8 J

SB Check
Hero - Bets $260
Villian - Raises $1040
UTG +4 - Raises All-In for $1315
SB Folds
Hero - ??

Pot is $2,875 and hero holds nut flush draw, bottom set and nut low draw.
Here's the sticky part, Hero is positive Villian has flopped top set of Aces. Tight player who only bets the pot when he has the nuts. Knowing this, hero has 8 outs to the high (Any heart not the Jack and the 4th eight) and 16 outs to the nut low.

With the casino rule of only running the board once, what is the right play here?

a) Call entire stack, or
b) Fold
Preflop is a disaster.

As played V1 probably has a set of aces. Get it in and get gambling.
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