Big O - 3-way pot, deep with A23QKds, facing 3b from short stack
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1/2, 6-handed.
I'm in BB with A23QKds.
UTG opens to 7
HJ folds
CO 3bets for pot
BTN/SB fold
I'm 300bb's deep with UTG who still gets to act. HJ has 50bb's.
CO is pretty loose and seems to be losing a lot this session. Know next to nothing about UTG. Played very little with him.
Just call? Hand is pretty damn strong. Is a repot here spew? I feel like it can't be since my equity is doing great 3-way even against tighter ranges. And even if i give UTG pure AA2** for the sidepot I'm still 45% there vs him.
Last edited by kisada; 07-26-2018 at 04:26 AM.
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What's this, 5 Card Omaha 8?
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you give HJ's stack but also say HJ folded pre.
you mention a side pot with UTG, so by inference CO has a shorter stack then both you and utg, perhaps CO is the one with the 50bb stack and not HJ.
stacksizes!
determining the effective stacksize contributing to a main pot and how big a potential sidepot can be is fundamental.
in fact, i believe in another thread you wrote how SPR should dictate your play,
and yet you post a hand history without the relevant information necessary to determine SPR.
YOU must know the stacksizes or atleast a close approximation.... you must provide them .
the same goes for the suitedness of your hand, by inference one might assume it isn't nut suited or you would mention it, but then again the likelihood is it is nut suited. Its a very strong hand no matter how it is suited but why not just use parenthesis and give us the benefit of the actual hand.
the same goes for the amount of the 3bet. (likely to be 22.5?) which raises the question why stacks in bb but utg's bet in $ but the 3bet in pots? choose 1 unit of measure. make it easier on posters and probably yourself.
i don't understand why or how you expect anyone to bother when you don't.
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oops yes, meant to say it was CO who had the 50bb's.
to clarify:
CO is at 50bb's
i'm 300BB's deep with UTG, in this hand.
it was A23sss-QKdd
was a bit of a late night post, i'll be more clear in future ones.
thanks for the responses, guys.
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clear 4b/stack off vs UTG.
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with 30 in the pot and you have 600 it is a bad move to build it here oop on the sidepot guy as all you are going to do is get trapped or run off after the flop.
i just call. plus with a dead sidepot you get some protection from him doing too much to you.
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I respectfully disagree Ray. A23 with two broadway cards double suited I think you need to smash the bet pot button as fast and hard as you can.
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only against the right player and situation. meaning your stack size. when oop in omaha you are at a significant disadvantage when getting alot in without being able to protect it.
and in this case there is a sidepot to protect you.
although if wrong you cant be too far off raising the pot. but ill save most of my raises while in position. its not like holdem where big preflop hands stay great after the flop most times and you can lead out.
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its okay to disagree as there are many ways to play hands. and some are better than others for different players and different opponents.
if your play is weaker on later streets it pays to get it in early. if real strong on later streets than you can drag the play of the pot out and use your skills to extract more and lose less when that happens.
