WTF is this ****

a straight flush

Its official I run worse than anyone. If my aa2x loses to all in preflop one more time im done with poker for good.

I think it's time for EVgrafs4rollz.

Yup. It's the only remotely credible form of proof that you've been running bad that will fit in this forum.

Now way!! I run so bad that an EV graph could never show how bad it really is. Honestly I've looked and there is now way these are right for me. I guess you could say my runbad extends to my EV graph accuracy?

there are different kinds of run bad. there is equity run bad where you lose more than you should. there is big hand run bad, where you make the nuts and no one has anything remotely close to a hand and just fold. there is cold deck run bad, where you get cold decked repeatedly and you're forced into saying "no way they have it again" and they always do. there is action run bad where you can't get any action vs anyone, esp donks. yeah... that is all i can think of for now. but only 1/4 show up on ev graphs.

Better do what sangaman says..... He knows it all.

You are correct, but I know of no way to show you've been running bad in ways other than all-in luck over any kind of reasonable sample size. A couple of hand histories certainly doesn't lead to any conclusions regarding how a player has been running in any particular month.

I do.... It is called taking our word for it. I havent seen a bad player on 2+2 08 page who I dont believe. I think we all have hit Bad coolers or runs recently and I am sure each person feels like their bad run is worse than the rest. I feel confident enough to say all of us who are going through this crap will survive and come out with a winning streak if we play smart.
........ By the way, you never did answer my questions. Would you have played those hands differently?????

Im gone for a week and now they take 20 minutes to fill a STT...

and then this magnificent play, worked out to begin with went 3/3 wins, it was bound to catch up to me.


Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: t1500 M = 33.33
MP2: t2040 M = 45.33
CO: t2070 M = 46
Hero (BTN): t1420 M = 31.56
SB: t1600 M = 35.56
BB: t1400 M = 31.11
UTG: t2090 M = 46.44
UTG+1: t1380 M = 30.67
UTG+2: t1500 M = 33.33

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN with K A A K
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, 3 folds, CO calls t30, Hero raises to t195, 2 folds, UTG calls t165, UTG+1 calls t165, 1 fold

Flop: (t660) J 4 7 (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t660, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t660

Turn: (t1980) T (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t525, UTG+1 calls t525 all in

River: (t3030) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t3030
Hero shows K A A K (HI: a pair of Aces)
UTG+1 shows 3 Q 6 2 (HI: a straight, Three to Seven; LO: 7,5,4,3,2)
UTG+1 wins t1515
UTG+1 wins t1515


lol im actually still in this tournament i just doubled up 3 times, sitting at 700 might be able to pull a cash out.

And then i busted with A344 on a J52 flop, weeeee

unfortunately i single-handedly start a good portion of PLO8 games $1/$2 and above, have been doing so for years, and when I don't the other clueless donkey lemmings sit in a waiting list on 1 table or continue being mindless followers of other aspects of life.

True story.

MP went crazy after this hand, accused UTG and CO of collusion, called a moderator, claimed to have reported them etc.etc. then left the table when the mod didn't do anything.

I'm pretty sure they're just donks, but it was a funny story anyway!

UTG is 79/0 and CO is 70/3. CO agg factors f/t/r 0.5/2.4/3.0

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $8.75
MP: $35.00
CO: $15.00
BTN: $44.95
SB: $14.40
Hero (BB): $36.95

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 5 2 T Q
UTG calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.10, CO calls $1.10, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: ($3.65) 4 7 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: ($3.65) Q (3 players)
UTG bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25

River: ($4.40) 4 (3 players)
UTG bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO raises to $2, UTG calls $1.75, MP folds

Final Pot: $8.65
UTG shows K K 6 K (HI: two pair, Kings and Fours)
CO shows 5 9 Q 9 (HI: two pair, Queens and Fours)
UTG wins $8.25
(Rake: $0.40)

Muppet didn't even realize he had gotten quartered....



Dealer: Deuce Flopalow shows two pair, Aces and Nines, for high and 8,6,4,2,A, for low
Dealer: LNANGEL shows Ace King high, for high and 8,6,4,2,A, for low
Dealer: Deuce Flopalow wins the high pot ($14.85) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Dealer: LNANGEL ties for the low pot ($7.45) with 8,6,4,2,A
Dealer: Deuce Flopalow ties for the low pot ($7.40) with 8,6,4,2,A
Dealer: Hand #13664688529
LNANGEL: y give them a cut
LNANGEL: duece dumalow

Brag: Ship the +500 day.
Beat: Just over breakeven after the debacle that was last week.
Variance: Drunk as sht and have to be up in 4 hours fkkkkkkkkkkkk.

Beat: Moved down to 25 from 50 because of prolonged downswing
Brag: +4BI in 150hands

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[x] players at 25 suck incredibly and 50 is filled with regs

i run good.

she taught me with her fulltilt lessons

Did she teach you how to play NLHE too. Playing quads on the board is her speciality.

HAHAHA CLASSIC

You're totally right and this is a good point. There's also run bad getting good starting hands and flopping big, though this shouldn't last as long as the other types of run bad because the statistical sample is way bigger than the number of times you are getting all in. This kind of run bad also won't show up in your EV graph as a bad run.

I was just kidding about me running bad by the way, I would have to run awful for years before I have any kind of right to complain. LOL

I finally played poorly in a session in over 2 months. I forgot what it felt like to gambool it up.

so game is playing full tilt with hilarious hands being shown down (QT97) w/multiple bets preflop and guys snapping off one/two outers on the river to scoop. this is pretty much standard in this game -- all the time.

SB and me have history and we've been liberally 3-betting/capping each other and showing down marginal hands. other two players are my two favorite players in the game. they buy in short and rebuy and rebuy and rebuy.

six-handed. I raise Kh Qh 4s 2s UTG. folded to very bad player who calls and very loose player on the button. SB 3 bets and I cap.

flop: T54, two hearts. SB leads, i call, both players call.
turn: 6h. SB leads, i call, both players call.
river: 2x. SB thinks and leads, i make a very slim value-raise, both players call and SB 3-bets, we all call. then as I muck one of the bad players asks to see my hand and as i toss it into the muck he goes into the muck and pulls it out.

then on another hand i decided to raise river against a good player with bottom full to only get 3 bet. that was fun.

then i make second/second for 3 bets on the river.

then i airball a wrap-wheel and flush draw in a 5-way capped preflop pot.

then i find myself paying 3 bets on the turn with As Qs TT on a 887J board hoping to spike a high river spade to scoop? yeah. . . gambool it up baby. only to find out somebody else was holding TT and the other guy had mucked KJss on the turn.

needless to say, i left home loser.

FML

Never really thought about it this way. I noticed last week that I would get some premium starting hands, raise it up PF, and just completely airball what seemed like every frickin flop. Or catch a sick draw on the flop but totally whiff turn/river and have to give it up after building a nice pot. My personal favorite though is putting in money waaaaaaay ahead PF, flop and turn, then having to call on a weird river because "there's no way he called all that with (insert completely asinine 4 card combination which that river somehow completed both ways here)".

50 regs shouldnt be anything speical. if u have a prolonged downswing at 50 plo08 u should really look at leaks u have( thye are obv there- not being mean but everyone should know their leaks, i can name about 10 i have), rather than claiming, that the 50 max regs are somehow unbeatable.

i bet if ur maxing out tables, ud see a big difference in ur game. i also bet that if thats happening ur prolly running into a ton of races, which imo is what happens when a bunch on nits nutpeddle. and tilts me so hard

may be stupid, pto isnt working for ft for a while. was there another update. i never even bothered looking. could really care less anymore waht my bb/100 or stats are as long as i win

but may be good to get back at it,. maunally loggin in my hours/hourly doesnt bother me, but maybe unnecessary

im obviously aware of that and i never said the regs are unbeatable part. im aware of the fact that i have leaks that cost me, im also aware its easier to play a table with 4fish and 1solid player(pl25) than 4regs and 1fish(pl50)....btw i have a 35k hands breakeven stretch, something i'm not used to at plo8, guess its just variance, i ran pretty well before

fwiw i've found out that both NLHE100 is easier than NLHE50 and PLO8100 is easier than PLO850..kinda interesting