Curious on thoughts with this. Villian is unknown player we've been with for 20 hands, playing pretty loose, although not excessively so. This is still about 50 remaining from a field of 150 or so, 18 paid.

Game Hand #402771869 - Tournament #20763745 - Omaha H/L(Pot Limit) - Level 18 (2250.00/4500.00)- 2020/06/16 19:49:04 UTC
Table '13' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: mannycat (119294.00)
Seat 2: PippoInzaghi (110963.00)
Seat 3: DnkyKng (49195.00)
Seat 4: gophils42 (262323.00)
Seat 5: timsten88 (101344.00) is sitting out
Seat 6: DesperadoMyLife (182335.00)
mannycat posts ante 225.00
PippoInzaghi posts ante 225.00
DnkyKng posts ante 225.00
gophils42 posts ante 225.00
timsten88 posts ante 225.00
DesperadoMyLife posts ante 225.00
timsten88 posts the small blind 2250.00
DesperadoMyLife posts the big blind 4500.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Main pot 1350.00
Dealt to DesperadoMyLife [Kc Qs Ad 4d]
mannycat raises 9000.00 to 9000.00
PippoInzaghi folds
DnkyKng calls 9000.00
gophils42 folds
timsten88 raises 11250.00 to 13500.00



DesperadoMyLife calls 9000.00
mannycat calls 4500.00
DnkyKng calls 4500.00
*** FLOP *** h Td 9c]
Main pot 55350.00
timsten88 bets 4500.00
DesperadoMyLife raises 26300.00 to 26300.00



mannycat folds
DnkyKng folds
timsten88 raises 43600.00 to 48100.00
DesperadoMyLife folds
Uncalled bet (21800.00) returned to timsten88
timsten88 does not show
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 107950.00
Board [Kh Td 9c]
Seat 1: mannycat folded on the Flop
Seat 2: PippoInzaghi folded on the Pre-Flop and did not bet
Seat 3: DnkyKng folded on the Flop
Seat 4: gophils42 (button) folded on the Pre-Flop
Seat 5: timsten88 did not show and won 107950.00
Seat 6: DesperadoMyLife (big blind) folded on the Flop

Hey, congrats on your recent cashes!
I started playing a few weeks ago on ACR and your nickname seems familiar (mine is waltiph).

Preflop:
I would in general play it the same. You can also reraise it preflop depending on the opponents / your image etc.

Flop:
Once you decide to continue on that flop i would raise way bigger and never fold with such a low SPR. Yes you are crushed by sets and straights (around 15% vs such hands) but raise folding there seems extremely exploitative. Especially as I just saw on SS that timsten88 seems like a huge fish.

Thanks man! Back at ya, you play well and nice take down in that event a few days ago.

You know i'm glad that's what you said, my first thought after mulling it over a little more was a bigger raise there. But maybe like 10-15k more. I feel like that's how i'm playing JQ many times, make it overly desirable to call at the chance of obv getting counterfeited on turn.

Also I think i'm not doing this as often as i said probably closer to 25%.

I'm still not sure i'm sold on continuing here even given the low SPR. We're still pretty deep relative to the pot size imo. What turns do we realistically want to see that we can continue on if he fires turn? (And given his action so far, feels highly likely). Or is he bluffing enough of the time there i should just be shoving over him and fist pumping?

Please convert hand history to BBs next time.

I think we can consider a tight fold pre-flop. Raise is an option but we're a bit deep to play for stacks with this hand - and i'm not sure we have enough fold equity vs a2 and a3 to make up for the times we are dominated by aa, kk, and ak with better lo draw.

As played, i know that small bets look fishy but your hand really doesn't need much protection. Raise-fold is a disaster, or at least raising large and folding is a disaster, if we go for some tiny raises it becomes more feasible again.


Flop is 4way so your default should be checking anyway, fishy lead shouldn't make you get overagressive.

I couldn't get the damn converter to work, i apologize.

I can definitely see an argument for a fold pre-flop, I don't love a raise here though.

As played on flop I agree with you and my default is definitely checking, but i am bluff "raising" this a non-zero % of the time. I want to raise enough for it to look "real" but small enough that i'm risking the least possible chips and still able to get away from the hand. As played, are you raising/calling/folding here? Thoughts on bet-sizing?

possibly it will be useful to someone considering posting

Seat 1: mannycat (119294.00) -225 = 119069/4500 =26.46bb
Seat 2: PippoInzaghi (110963.00)
Seat 3: DnkyKng (49195.00) -225 = 48970/4500 =10.88bb
Seat 4: gophils42 (262323.00)
Seat 5: timsten88 (101344.00) -225 = 101119/4500 =22.47bb
Seat 6: DesperadoMyLife (182335.00) -225 = 182110/4500 =40.47bb


9000 =2bb

13500 =3bb

55350 = 12.3bb

26300 - 4500 =21800 /4500 = 4.84bb


with regard to the hand;
i really don't understand the flop raise, and i don't just mean the size.

confuses me too, a lot.

Winning Poker, Omaha H/L Pot Limit - 2,250/4,500 (225 ante) - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

mannycat (UTG): 119,294 (27 bb)
PippoInzaghi (MP): 110,963 (25 bb)
DnkyKng (CO): 49,195 (11 bb)
gophils42 (BU): 262,323 (58 bb)
timsten88 (SB): 101,344 (23 bb)
DesperadoMyLife (BB): 182,335 (41 bb)

Pre-Flop: (8,100) Hero (DesperadoMyLife) is BB with K♣ Q♠ A♦ 4♦
mannycat (UTG) raises to 9,000, 1 fold, DnkyKng (CO) calls 9,000, 1 fold, timsten88 (SB) 3-bets to 13,500, DesperadoMyLife (BB) calls 9,000, mannycat (UTG) calls 4,500, DnkyKng (CO) calls 4,500

Flop: (55,350) K♥ T♦ 9♣ (4 players)
timsten88 (SB) bets 4,500, DesperadoMyLife (BB) raises to 26,300, 2 players fold, timsten88 (SB) raises to 48,100, DesperadoMyLife (BB) folds

Total pot: 107,950
timsten88 (SB) wins 107,950


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Flop is an obvious call. Maybe you can bluff with something weaker like AQ+no pair. This and the other hand you posted (K-high flush) reveal that you are raising a lot when you should be calling. I think that's very typical for low limit players - raising to "take control" just somehow feels easier than calling ("what do I do if he fires the turn?").

Preflop call is OK...multiway action with a hand that can makes nuts multiway.

Flop is a clear call getting 12-1...though if raised behind, you'll have to fold. Raising has it's merits if the players are tight and will fold...but I find that people don't really like to fold in Omaha, and find reasons to call.

Call flop. That isn’t a raising hand. You definitely need to improve.