game is playing with a $10 rock to the winner of the previous hand. person to the right of the rock puts on $20 additional live straddle. game is playing very loose and chips are flying.

villain - bb - very bad player. big calling station. gets it in with very weak hands and is constantly upset when he loses pots. for example, gets it in with bottom 2p vs a big combo draw and can't believe it when his hand doesn't hold.

we are stuck, but not terribly. lost a big pot earlier when we get it in with almost 60% 3 ways on the flop with top 2p and nfd on a high only board vs 2 nut straights with no redraws.

we are the $20 straddle. we have 2345K

$1500 effective

rock limps, sb folds, villain raises to $60. one other caller. we call the additional $40 in position.

flop: 3 players - $185

22Jr
villain pots it. other player folds, we call.

turn: heads up - $555

Ax
villain pots it. hero??

we have trips and a wrap on the wheel. our hand seems strong, but we don't beat much other than bluffs. villain is really bad though. the turn improves us in some ways, but it obviously smashes his raise/pot/pot range.

i guess we can fold pre, but that seems pretty nitty considering the price we get to call.

Fold.

think you're right and you just are rarely ever good here against a raise/pot/pot line.

i prob call pre also but not sure these hands aren't a leak, in general. that said the hand is mostly easy to play postflop. but it's easy to play and we're closing the action so it's all good i think.

Not many draws V can have. Your wheel wrap is most likely no good. You've got an unbreakable low draw, but with only one card to come (and the chance that you're getting freerolled for half that pot) makes this a FOLD.

Side Note: Was this game played in Pensacola? If so, I think I know exactly what player you're talking about LOL

Folding pre for 2xbb with 75x behind seems crazy. It's not often we'll flop A+low card or any ace + wheel card, but the times we do, our freeroll equity either on the flop or on a good turn will make it worth the small investment. Exception is if the rock and the raiser are both so tight that they have to have about 2.5 of the aces accounted for.

Calling flop is fine. Folding turn is good against all but the craziest maniacs since it's so likely we're drawing to half. Given reads it's probably just a tiny leak if a leak at all to call, given the chance he might overplay something stupid like QJT32. Against competent players calling is a solid leak.

Villain is bad, but not spewy psychopath bad... More of the calls everything bad. Turn is definitely a fold vs a player who is generally loose/passive like him. If he was a more aggressive fish, I lean towards a call sometimes, but not against this guy.

Also I said QJT32 neglecting that's a full house that we have three outs to beat. Replace it with QT932 or whatever.

i mean i think it's a clear fold. but i also wouldn't beat myself up about it if i did make the call. it's not like you called for stacks with the worst FH, or you called with a bare wheel on 3456 flush board. like if i were on the other side with and saw a guy make a wheel OTR i'd probably think, meh, i had him in a bad spot but at least i get the call.

plus the tilt factor when you suckout for a wheel has to count for something.