Today i got busted by zanos_goda with a crazy play style in a 215pl08 tournament where i had 65% on the turn - he shoved a 8 high flush draw and a ****ty low draw without anything else.
I looked him up and he has amazing results, 30-40% itm in hyper pko nlo8 tournaments and huge results in WCOOP and SCOOP tournaments. How can someone have such results in hypers in a bingo format and in normal NLO8 and PLO8 tournaments. I marked him as a weak but sticky player who was giving me most of my chips so far.

Variance?

Yeah hes way on the + side of variance. He's a horrific spewtard and will be seeing the other side of it soon enough and go broke.

The reason why I answer with this is: the hero of this hand was not me, but was a regular well known player on pokerstars and is very successful in nlo8 tourneys (is about 200K up), but I see him making crazy plays like this every single day.

This hand was on the bubble

Yeah its a bad call but I guess he did as 3 in there with decent equity and wanted to gamble. Don't really get why u posted this and not said who the villain is. Its prolly pokinstar if I were to hazard a guess. He routinely makes the lol fishiest of calls so this is super standard.


Or are you asking the merits of the call even though you think its an obv fold?

The point was not who the player was, the point was that zanos is not the only successful player who plays omaha8 in freestyle/high variance/silly modus. I was surprised more than once, looking at some players stats after seeing them making stupid plays like these.
A friend of mine told me they could have made their money with other games. He must be right.

And back to that call, on the bubble or not, was terrible.
After a raise and a reshove I can't imagine a scenario where that crappy hand was in good shape. Normally you face vs 2 players minimum an a2 or a3 type of hand.
That hand needs an ace on the flop to make a good low and after that action 2 or 3 aces are already busy. How can he win the high hand 4 or 3 high flush? Or with a set but if you set there will be almost always a low on the board.
Board came 256xx he scooped the side pot against AAxx and had choped the main pot against a flush (his low was best).
And after the hand best comment ever: sorry dude im playing for the win. Hahaahah
After getting rewarded for a play like that....

Variance seems impossible to understand for many people.

Amok does Variance imply or Justify Making Bad Calls and Silly Moves ?
I can't understand variance if players play like that 5 years long and get always rewarded for that kind of ****ty plays.

You are the genius in this forum, you must be already multimillionaire.

Nobody claimed it did. I said "Variance seems impossible to understand for many people." and in this case people=you. What's with the capital letters btw?

Yes. You don't understand variance.

I have no idea what this has to do with anything. Yes, I'm up +1M from poker, but it's irrelevant.

I wish you would stop posting nonsense or at least change your nickname. I'm a huge Galfond fan and you keep disgracing his name.

i think many would be surprised at how many "successful" tournament players have godawful fundamentals.

beyond that, aren't tournaments supposed to be way higher variance than cash games, to begin with?

you started trolling me a few months ago and thats the reason why I'm not writing anymore or very rarely.
I know you meant me with "people", that's why I had to answer.
I told you already twice, you don't need to answer my posts to provoke me, but you can't let this.
Even if you had 10M net winnings, you can't buy respect or good manners with that money, you would be only the same troll like you show here everytime.
It's nice that nowadays internet gives you the chance to troll people without risking any consequences. I'm glad for you.

If you are millionaire, I am Bill Gates' mother.
Probably you mean those fake Winnings of officialpokerrankings... according to that website almost all players Online are Poker Millionaires.

You seem very emotional. I have not trolled you. I find most of your threads borderline ridiculous and I know I'm not the only one. There are low limit players that are able to produce sensible threads (=ask good questions), like Caterina.

Don't forget that you are the one the brought up the millionaire-nonsense. I could not care less.

I do not mean anything related to OPR, it doesn't track cash games from what I know. Also, I said "I'm up +1M from poker", not that "I'm a millionaire". And that's none of your business anyway.

You seem very confused about everything, but I sincerely hope you are able to pull yourself together.

Indeed.
Definitely, especially if we count in WCOOPs and other higher buy-ins. Bink once and enjoy your ROI for the rest of your life, even if you play awfully.

Is it worth an answer? Actually it's not. But if you read carefully your words against me in this and the old threads, you would realize that you is the one who should pull hisself togehter.
It's not my style trolling people or talking so cool like you do from behind a keyboard. Like a coward.
But I told you already, you can be glad and enjoy internet who gives people like you the chance to do it, while you can't do this in real life.

Have a good summer! Bye

there was this young dude, 26 or something who won was on fire one year during WSOP. he had articles and everything, and one day he came to play my usual mix game at the casino.

he was completely bonkers. i could not believe how insane he was playing 20/40 and i couldn't figure out if he was just splashing around or if he actually was at that level of play.

So you are looking at players overall mtt stats as opposed to filtering the O8 games? That is pointless.

If you are really keen to see players actual stats in mtt buy a sharkscope sub. It has some good filtering options.

Also you said something about pokerplayerrankings has fictitious stats. Where do you get this info from? OPR has been pretty accurate for many years until
Prog bounty mtts started which they do not track which means that OPR shows less profit if the player grinding lots of PKO's.

You are not going to be able to track anyones cash game profits esp people play a bunch of different sites so no point argueing with Amok about how much he has profited in cash games. Hes been playing O8 for many years so would not be shocked if was somewhere around that.

Yet another nonsensical, pointless post by you. Have a great summer!

It's kinda more fun not knowing tbh, I think there would be less action overall if tracking was accurate for both mtts and cash.

Even with a subscription and filtering, sharkscope has some pretty serious issues with tracking...particularly with certain formats and sometimes entire networks like Bovada.

Yeah I can only speak for stars which I know to be accurate.

I rest my case...I late enter this prog and just know the re tards flatting with some lol pish. But he has the audacity to gii and not feel ashamed and telling me that he had the equity to call lol.
ftr Georgankle is another massive donk whos opening any4 so it was kinda a w/e 3 bet gii gamble spot and maybe (lol) get 1 fold.

Should point him to the other thread about horrible mistakes. Hand so standard for him too lolz.

Although it could well have been another gigantic fish jäää at this table who seems to recently been touched by the variance gods. They are both equally as terrible. But pokinfish somehow run good in 2k coops playing the nut worst. Probably giving it all back by now so w/e its probably entertaining for clowns following him on twitch ha.

ps. im not mad about it as I was beat anyway just think its hilarious that a guy playing and winning in the biggest buyins is so lol bad.

And yes as we are saying variance is huge in mtts. and the biggest fish can have huge roi's. Bet he doesn't go near too many cash games though...