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04-30-2018 , 11:59 PM

the pleasure

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first of all I know I need to bet bigger pre and also on most flops. I think turn is where I botch this hand so badly

I have AhAs2dJc

I am UTG+2

I raise to .55

everyone folds to UTG who calls(no reads)

FLOP : 8s2h5d pot (1.20)

Villain: Checks
Hero: bets .65
Villain calls

TURN: 7c pot (2.50)

VIlain: checks
hero: bets 1.00
Villain: raises to 3$
hero:folds

I feel i had absolutely no reason to be the turn and just see the river, I feel villain, who I have no reads on, has me beat both ways, i am behind. feel I should have c/c the hand after turn.

was the fold that bad? im learning plo8 still btw

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05-01-2018 , 12:37 AM

LUCIUS VARENUS

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I take it this is full ring. You have AA2J but it's rainbow? Everyone full stacked?

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05-01-2018 , 01:56 AM

the pleasure

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I take it this is full ring. You have AA2J but it's rainbow? Everyone full stacked?

I am sorry. yes rainbow, It's full ring,I think capped game, villain started with around 12$ and so did I

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05-01-2018 , 02:51 AM

Fold&Forget

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Does UTG limp before you raise?

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05-01-2018 , 02:25 PM

the pleasure

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Originally Posted by Fold&Forget

Does UTG limp before you raise?

I think he was BB actually, because if he woudl have limped I for sure raise bigger there. I am sorry for not getting all the facts.

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05-01-2018 , 03:32 PM

amok

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I think barreling turn is OK, once you chose to cbet flop. You have a hand that is so weak that is not able to call many rivers and has good blockers to the nuts.

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Originally Posted by the pleasure

feel I should have c/c the hand after turn.

c/c means check-call. You are in position, so you can't c/c. You can check back turn, but like I said, I think betting is a bit better.

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Originally Posted by the pleasure

was the fold that bad?

No. Doing something else than folding would have been bad.

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05-01-2018 , 03:58 PM

monikrazy

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Looks ok, agree that barreling the turn is often better than checking back

Its a good flop to check back at a high frequency, and we can make delayed cbets with many good hands

From a card removal standpoint villain is going to have a lot of a3, a4 and other los that never fold flop so even though turning our hand into a bluff is fine in theory vs many opponents we should just check and try to see a cheap showdown

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05-01-2018 , 05:22 PM

the pleasure

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Originally Posted by amok

I think barreling turn is OK, once you chose to cbet flop. You have a hand that is so weak that is not able to call many rivers and has good blockers to the nuts.

c/c means check-call. You are in position, so you can't c/c. You can check back turn, but like I said, I think betting is a bit better.

No. Doing something else than folding would have been bad.

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Thank you all for posting, i appreciatre the feedback from you sesoned legit vet players.

, is pot control a "thing" in PLO8? I am very surprised you seasoned pros are saying that barreling turn is ok since I cbet(its weird i felt i should have bet flop then still check behind and call river). is there a world where you guys don't bet at all on any of these streets? I thought villain had A3 or even A4 here like 99% of time so me just betting is throwing oney down the drain? no reads on on villain so i assume hes playing a hand that involves A2,A3,A4 wich 2 of the 3 have me crushed

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05-01-2018 , 05:52 PM

amok

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Originally Posted by the pleasure

is pot control a "thing" in PLO8?

Certainly.

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I am very surprised you seasoned pros are saying that barreling turn is ok since I cbet(its weird i felt i should have bet flop then still check behind and call river).

I don't think your hand is strong enough for that line.

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is there a world where you guys don't bet at all on any of these streets?

Certainly. If I check back flop I'd check turn too against many players, simply due to hand strength.

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I thought villain had A3 or even A4 here like 99% of time so me just betting is throwing oney down the drain? no reads on on villain so i assume hes playing a hand that involves A2,A3,A4 wich 2 of the 3 have me crushed

99%? Wild assumption. In that case betting any street is indeed setting money on fire.

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05-01-2018 , 06:18 PM

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the pleasure

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Amok, if I knew villain was super loose or a donk/maniac

would you have seen the hand through? so call the turn then check call river?

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05-02-2018 , 05:23 AM

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amok

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Originally Posted by the pleasure

Amok, if I knew villain was super loose or a donk/maniac

would you have seen the hand through? so call the turn then check call river?

You can't call the turn since he checked. You can't check-call river since you are in position.

If you mean check turn, planning to call most rivers when he bets... I think no. You are getting scooped by so many hand combinations. In order to profitably call a pot sized bet to split you need to be right at least 2/3 of the time.

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