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10-01-2007 , 01:36 AM
Lessons From a Lost Final Table by Ben Frisch


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10-02-2007 , 01:47 PM
Nice article. Question about this scenario:

At this point, the stacks looked like this:

Seat 1: 88,278
Me #3: 150,652
Seat 7: 248,836
Seat 9: 451,234

With A7o, I raised to 31,000 and was called by seat 7 and seat 1. The flop was [A Q 4]. One check ahead of me and I bet 25,000. "I did not think that I had to worry about spades so I did not need to make a bet that would discourage draws such as a half the pot bet."

Why did you not think you had to worry about spades? Seems like a conclusion made to justify the fact that you wanted to bet...
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10-02-2007 , 11:40 PM
I am glad you liked the article. Thanks.

Four handed, suited cards and connected cards are less valuable. Pairs and big cards are more valuable. These players all seemed solid so I did not think it likely that they stayed on a suited hand pre-flop.

Also, having raised pre-flop and made top pair, which is a fairly good hand short-handed, I wanted to continue my aggression. Also, if I had bet an amount that would discourage flush draws (half the pot), it was too big a portin of my chips and I would have felt pot committed. And if I was going to call a push after making a half the pot bet, I needeed to push myself.
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