That's what I will do, along with reviewing the problematic hands. I figured out how to play against NL10 FR regulars on Stars. The fish now give me trouble... correctly stated: I need to figure out a way to play against fish too. Giving them more respect is a good start.

poker is pretty much a routine especially in micro sng's what to raise when to fold etc if everyone is limping raise more with your big hands don't go all in on flop with top pair because you usually get at least 2 callers wait for your sets and nut flushes because that's when the fish pay.you will get a lot of bad beats and losing days but if you have a big enough edge to overcome the rake you will win in the long run you need the fish to keep returning with there pathetic play.if iget really tilted I read this poker article http://www.playwinningpoker.com/poker/math/variance/ and start a fresh with my normal game.
good luck and patience is the key!

patience is power...

I play low tourneys - PL O etc and of course the fish will prove to be the problem. If you play $4 and under tourneys you get fair sized entry numbers but you have to remember that most are playing it as a recreation not a profession. So when they lose $2 so what - less than a price of a cup of coffee. If you play this sort of game it can only be for fun - you can make money but it requires a lot of PATIENCE and you need to sit back and set the fish up by checking hands which are winners and hope they bet when the river falls and you are in front - fish will nearly always fall for that when they have the next best hands.
PATIENCE and having an enjoyable time are what low level poker is about.

Fish tend to be luckier then shark. Otherwise, there be no fish in the sea.

Don't play poker then, not for you!

Yea this type of situation can burn a hole in your BR very quick, rotate tables & best of luck.

off topic a question which site has more FISH
pokerstars I think that has the lowest percentage now

Bovada,Betonline,ACR,Carbon... probably in that order

888 by far I reckon.

The sites i listed are for US players

Link to sircuddles?

Variance at microstakes MTTs is a real bitch.
1st: games are fastpaced (turbo, hyperturbo, 2x/3x turbo). That's added variance right there.
2nd: games have HUUUUGE fieldsizes to boost the prize money. If you are playing against more than 2000 players on a regular basis, you are expected to lose a shetload amount of times.
3rd: micros = tilt-land. Losing 1,10 at one game doesn't hurt many players. That is reflected in their game. So they reload and donk the next buyin. Then the buyin after that, until they start playing like maniacs cause they "have to win at one point, right?" That's added variance again.
4th: Don't we all love a little bit of drama? Well micro's is where we go to get our daily drama fix.

It's hard to beat fish because when playing vs them, most of us are guilty of stooping to their lvl, or even lower.

I had a losing session vs 2 fishes at the table and 2 regs. After considering the session, I realised that I was just playing as bad as they did, calling in stupid spots, becaause he's a "fish", making stupid raises, because "fish". The list goes on.

The truth is, you will hit the flop about 30%ish of the time (correct me if I'm wrong on that) and miss the rest.

Let's suppose a fish is a true callling station that you can get stacks in no matter the 2 cards he has everyhand you play with him.

If you we're to do that, you gotta realise that on the long term, he'd be callling your bluffs "correctly" 70% of the time, "correctly" being a very, very long stretch, as he is mostly likely on air too.

The most profitable way of palying vs fish is tos tick to your solid game, and maybe open more implied odds hands.

He will just punish you more when you try to bluff, and pay you more when you're not. Eliminate the bluffs, and you're jsut left with him paying you more.

If you cant beat the fish, you are the fish

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1 buy in stop loss lmao gold

I guess it s more about how you running. On a good run u beat fish, reg, etc. On a bad run u just lose AA>22. My opinion.

Start going all in every time you have premium holdings, if you make normal raises/bets you let them catch their cards.

I totally understand you, that is the main reason why I'm stuck at micro level...
I try to play basic (A,B,C) poker, because that is the only way to beat a fish, but like said someone before variance at micro level are the main reason...How can someone win a 3$ tournament where is 3000 + players and most of them are fish who doesn't came much about hand range, EV or player previously action, most of them will take a risk and go all in on turn even if they are probably drawing dead just to catch that 1 out on river, because that 3 $ is nothing to them and for me is is that tournament or the most of the chips...I know that bad beats are part of the game, but even if you play perfect poker the chance that you will run into fish are much more bigger in micro levels than higher levels...
Against those players are lower my range and trying to play tighter because that is the only way to beat them ( let them to fight against each other ), even if that hurts my game and my strategy, but I can't let them take my chips on theirs stupid moves..
ps. sorry about mistakes, english is not my native language

Lol dude....

You have to learn how to play the fish. They are EXTREMELY PROFITABLE. So profitable that you can make MORE MONEY AND FASTER playing ONLY FISH!! Gees... You can't be beating better players if you can't be beating fish!!!!

Main guidelines
1) Mark them as special kinds of players. And play them different.
2) Specifically, those categories are Passive fish, and Aggro fish
3) Learn to identify them instantly: both from the stats and some particular moves and tells. One big simple tip: limping
4) If you still can't work out how to play the fish, here is another tip: Get in the fish's head... How do they try to beat you? They hardly bluff or when they do, they bluff with huge bets.

Come on, do you want me to tell you the exact strategy? It is so easy it is explained in 1 line!!!! Lol

And ffs, AA are NOT big hands postflop. Big hands postflop are trips, straights, flushes etc.

AA, KK are ONE PAIR HANDS!

Fish -> value bet, value bet, value bet, value bet, value bet..... And top it with some value bet sauce.

There is always a good enough counter strategy and as the fish can call too much it is easy to just rock it and at most double barrel f t or t r if one thinks he will fold as many fish and so is pretty sticky vs one bet. Then just balance those overall and exploit if u think so.

I don't know if OP is still reading but anyway I will just put out a full answer if this helps. This is for Micro stakes.

Most money lost from fish are from either
1) Trying to get them off hands with nothing
2) Calling their sudden huge bets when they hit some real longshot

Basically this is how to beat the passive fish:
1) Identify them
2) Sit to their left. If they are sitting to your left they may drive you nuts because they will be calling all the time.
3) Value bet TPGK or better over multiple streets. Bet more than you bet the regs for the same hands. For example, TPGK may be a full PSB on flop against a fish, because they call and you get a lot of value.
Sometimes it is even worth going all in on small pots with strong hands because the fish will call anyway with any hand.
If they ever bet into you on turn or river call only with the strongest of hands. Top pair is not good, most often 2 pair neither.
4) Do NOT try to take down pots by betting if you don't have anything. Just check-fold when your hands don't hit cos you will be going to the river with nothing and they will be calling even with A-high and you will be going "how could you chase with that?". (Answer: Because they are fish)

So in short, you have to beat them with made hands. You have to value bet as big as possible on all those situations where you have a stronger hand than them.
But if you haven't got a hand you shouldn't try to bet them out, and if they bet into you, even if you have invested a lot in the pot, generally fold.

Good advice.

I imagine people are losing money to fish because they're trying to use whatever universal strat they were taught or found a preflop starting chart online and adhere to it without question. Stealing with everything from LP and mindlessly c-betting while getting called by people they will never fold , putting a 93/2 fish on ridiculously narrow ranges leading tomonsters under the bed syndrome, not realizing your value is limited by how much they'll call, and fancy play syndrome in general. I can't exactly say to be clean of all of this.

tl;dr don't bluff fish, go for value with more hands.

I am new here, how do I find this guide (and others)? Thanks