With online poker A random generator deals cards. Do they also burn cards?

It doesn't really matter.

Some claim to do so, but most don't bother.

If the RNG is properly random then there's no point, the end result will be the same in the long run anyway.

Isn't there really no point in burning cards while dealing live assuming that the deck was properly shuffled?

The idea behind burning, as I understand it, is twofold:
(1) It's more difficult to deal thirds than seconds.

(2) The card backs come to have little indentations on them. Someone with really good eyesight might be able to tell what the next card to be dealt is, based on reading those little indentations.
But if the top card is burned, then anyone who can read the little indentations will not be able to read the card beneath the top card... the card that is to be dealt next.

Thus the dealer burns the top card (1) to cut down on the possibility of cheating by dealing seconds and (2) to make it more difficult to read the back of the next card to be dealt. As I understand it, that's the idea, anyhow.

Buzz

Watch this, even if your not blind you can learn this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUPLXpKewr8

Agreed with reneener77 Idea to burn the card is that the top card on the deck is visible to players during the previous betting round, and any player cheat might be able to spot a mark on the top card and therefore gain an advantage on his opponents.

Yeah, I've just thought that in case the top card was marked, it was discarded.

Because of why cards are burned, I don't think online cards need to be burned. People that want to argue that... are people that probably just enjoy arguing

I see this different.

I use Holdem indicator, does Holdem indicator take burned cards in consideration? I dont think so.

But what if some sites use burned cards? Then calculators like HI are off in their calculations.

Why?

To make it easier for you, pretend you know that the last two cards of a shuffled deck are the Ace and King but you don't know in which order they are sitting.

If the top card has to be burned and the other dealt, what are the odds that the card that is dealt is the Ace?

If the top card is just dealt, what are the odds that it's the Ace?

Because the burned card is not known, it is simply another unknown card in the deck and burning doesn't affect the odds in any way.

Superstitious players will obviously think, "But the card that was burned might have been the card that I wanted!" If you come across these types, they're the sort you should want to play against.

Thanks for the insight fellas

To all players who think this way please come find me on the tables. Lol well said.

lol are you lot trying to send yourself crazy with this pointless discussion honestly i can't catch my breath here.

One other effect of this is that it makes it hard for a deck mechanic to "rig" a deck.

I would support the idea of dealing more burned cards just to deal through an entire physical deck if the shuffler is not good.

It does not matter whether the cards are burned or not online. As each card is randomly generated. The software does not shuffle a virtual deck each round like a physical dealer. Also the software does not generate 52 virtual cards in a stack each round either. As each card comes out they are randomly generated. Thus burn cards are fairly irrelevant online assuming the randomness of any card coming out is proper.

Poker Chris

If the cards are randomly generated than why on Poker888 i get.


Round 1
I get 8,8 - Bet 5.000 all folds.

Round 2
I get 10,10 - Bet 5.000 and get raised by 2 Queens.

So how come in the period of 2 rounds there are 3 pairs dealt, when there isn't any for the next 15?


Or yesterday.

I get 2 kings, i bet 5.000, he raise to 10.000, i raise to 20.000, he all in, i call.

Guy has AA and flop a ****ing QUADS of ACES.

Good point clearly an exhaustive, anecdotal, 2 day, 16 hand sample size is massive evidence online poker is rigged at 888.

Just to be clear on this, you think that the rng did not burn the first card, so the other guy flopped quads? Just so we are completely clear on this, if he HAD burnt a card would you still have been drawing to 2 outs anyway? And just how did this rng cheat you, as it was all going in anyway w/o ANY aces coming, correct? And, just exactly which dog did the rng have in this fight? I believe there was somebody who posted earlier that wants you to come to his home game. Just say'n.

omg more coolers than a cool thing from coolville bro maybe you should quit

Nothing there not available every time