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Tournament books for a good cash game player Tournament books for a good cash game player

08-29-2017 , 02:00 AM
Planning on moving into some tournament play, including larger (such as multi day) tournaments where I expect to have a skill advantage over the field as far as general poker skill (winning 2/5 cash player), but i have only played about 5 tourneys in my life.

Ive heard some people say harrington on holdem is sort of dated now, and my understanding is Kill Phil is about destroying good players edge which isnt really a goal of mine. Im not too concerned with my play 100+ BB deep.
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08-31-2017 , 01:53 PM
Ill take this to mean no one has any suggestions? my internet research has brought me to "Raiser's edge", could this work?
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08-31-2017 , 06:21 PM
The Raiser's Edge can mess with your head if you prefer a more clear cut math based gaming. So, wouldn't start from there (I am not even sure if it is an additional I like, or if it should be burned, but I vote for both, taking whatever it gives and burn the rest).

Some theoretical and practical equilibrium stuffs (hu stuffs also, and those hu fans might love similarly crazy stuffs as in here also, as limp based 20 and 15 bb, that also might give some idea to any situation that short, but that's up to you) after your math based MTT strategy is clear (from other sources), and then it has less a chance to destroy your brain, getting just the goods, if you can digest it without going crazy (again). It has some good practical advice also, but how are you going to know that some live player is a nit? You just have to adjust to what you likely are against on average. I think that book has its place and ideas, but is technically outdated of course, or even as so you might learn more, if your head can handle it. It is from four authors.

The math stuff is spread all over many tourney books, so there is no shortcut. If your cash is GTO level, you need to learn the maths of shortstack play, and that's mostly it, counting out some bubble factors and the brains of your opponents. Although if you want some heads up tables, and more, there are a lot of them, net, softwares, books.

Just too many pages printed. A ten page booklet would cover most needed if one already plays good cash.

Harrington was the start, but I don't like his style, his books, but then came 1 hand at the time books (I read two, just mostly to learn the rule of being pot committed, although I wouldn't burn the rest, as it gives kind of experience).

Excelling book is light read, but doesn't contain much (doesn't cover even most of the basics of smaller than 100 bb stack play), but can help to turn one's game to the direction of tournaments, or then not, depending on what you can figure out while you read it.

The new Janda book has very little to offer, as tourneys, just makes you to think about the bet size, in case you so far hasn't been thinking about it already, and it it mentioned here and there in this and that book and hand history.

I am not planning of getting any more tourney books (among some other tourney books, I did read one Little's (or three but two were cash books, that did help me to build my cash game toghether with Janda and other stuffs), but didn't really help, but his stuff in that Excelling book is pretty good, just pages filled too much in my opinion. But it won't drive you crazy, being a clear book, but you will have to think and produce to get more out of it.
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09-02-2017 , 06:29 PM
I´ve read almost all of the tourney books and I recommend Kill Everyone(same author as Kill Phil and RE), Excelling at NLH and the Winning poker tourneys one hand at a time, especially vol.3. I suggest you go on amazon and look at the customer reviews. GL.
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09-03-2017 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by pucmo
The Raiser's Edge can mess with your head if you prefer a more clear cut math based gaming. So, wouldn't start from there (I am not even sure if it is an additional I like, or if it should be burned, but I vote for both, taking whatever it gives and burn the rest).
Im not really math based. Ill say part of my concern is itll just tell me to do what im already doing in cash games. (bet a lot)

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The math stuff is spread all over many tourney books, so there is no shortcut. If your cash is GTO level, you need to learn the maths of shortstack play, and that's mostly it, counting out some bubble factors and the brains of your opponents. Although if you want some heads up tables, and more, there are a lot of them, net, softwares, books.

Just too many pages printed. A ten page booklet would cover most needed if one already plays good cash.
Yes, thats pretty much what i need. a 10 page booklet on short stacking, shipping tables, and some thoughts on...whatever other intricicies that tournamnets may have, whatever that may be. I feel very confident >100 BB, and reasonably so >50 BB.

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Originally Posted by thecantonkid
I´ve read almost all of the tourney books and I recommend Kill Everyone(same author as Kill Phil and RE), Excelling at NLH and the Winning poker tourneys one hand at a time, especially vol.3. I suggest you go on amazon and look at the customer reviews. GL.
Bluh, i was trying to decide between kill everyone and raisers edge, and i bought raisers edge about 30 mins before you guys posted (as well as another book) Kill Everyone may be my next book if i finish these two before the tournaments roll around.

Looking at Excelling, seems sort of like a cash game book. I may check out the one hand at a time book as well, that sounds interesting.
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09-05-2017 , 09:38 PM
Kill Everyone or Jonathan Little, imo.
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