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Well they'd better have proof Assange helped steal the documents. Greenwald is terrible and Assange is a thousand times worse but the rule law applies to everyone or it's not the rule of law. Let's see what they have.

Is there any way for Sweden to prosecute the alleged rape(s)? They dropped the charges but the statute of limitations hasn't expired.

04-11-2019 , 09:00 AM

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If I were him I'd be trying to hook myself up a life sentence in Sweden.

04-11-2019 , 09:01 AM

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Maybe don't go all-in on trying to get Trump elected then? Just a thought.

I guess he assumed the leopard wouldn't eat his face.

Jesus, Obama declined to prosecute and GG still manages to make this about Dems somehow.

04-11-2019 , 09:04 AM

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If I were him I'd be trying to hook myself up a life sentence in Sweden.

21 years is max in Sweden (See Breivik) but yeah Sweden prisons is nothing like US/UK.

04-11-2019 , 09:07 AM

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If I were him I'd be trying to hook myself up a life sentence in Sweden.

For real.

Swedish jail >> Ecuadorian closet >>>>>>>^50 US prison.

04-11-2019 , 09:08 AM

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UK won't extradite him anywhere he might face the death penalty so US DOJ would have to take that off the table to get him at all. I doubt the US would pursue the death penalty anyway though.

04-11-2019 , 09:09 AM

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21 years is max in Sweden (See Breivik) but yeah Sweden prisons is nothing like US/UK.

That's Norway, as was Breivik. It's rare for people to serve super long sentences in Sweden but (again, as in Norway) it's possible to be imprisoned for life, but only because it is repeatedly determined that you are too dangerous to release.

/derail

04-11-2019 , 09:09 AM

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Probably will get pardoned and offered asylum by the dotard anyway

04-11-2019 , 09:10 AM

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UK won't extradite him anywhere he might face the death penalty so US DOJ would have to take that off the table to get him at all. I doubt the US would pursue the death penalty anyway though.

They will get around that restriction imo. The UK could, for example, give him to Australia (I think he's still an Australian citizen as well as Ecuadorian) and Australia could give him to the US. Problem solved.

04-11-2019 , 09:13 AM

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Probably will get pardoned and offered asylum by the dotard anyway

Greenwald reported last year that the Obama DOJ had considered indicting Assange and decided not to. The sealed indictment reportedly dates to December 2017. Trump probably greenlit it, or at least told them to do whatever they wanted.

04-11-2019 , 09:13 AM

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Massie has BS in electrical engineering and a master's in mechanical engineering, both from MIT. He's also a class A dip**** judging by that display.

lol prestige whoring forever and ever and ever

04-11-2019 , 09:15 AM

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Indictment (06 Mar 2018): https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr...53481/download

Assange allegedly (tried to) helped Bradley/Chelsea Manning crack a password.

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04-11-2019 , 09:16 AM

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Is there any way for Sweden to prosecute the alleged rape(s)? They dropped the charges but the statute of limitations hasn't expired.

Yes, the prosecutor that closed the investigation said at the time that she could reopen it "if Mr Assange made himself available."

04-11-2019 , 09:16 AM

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Ah, thanks for correction. My bad.

04-11-2019 , 09:16 AM

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Charge is conspiring with Chelsea Manning

Boy, that seems like weak tea. They’d better have good evidence that there was more of a conspiracy beyond Manning handing Assange the docs or else I don’t see how this is different from NYT publishing the Pentagon Papers.

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04-11-2019 , 09:17 AM

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Boy, that seems like weak tea. They’d better have good evidence that there was more of a conspiracy beyond Manning handing Assange the docs.

I'm not sure they need more than that.

04-11-2019 , 09:20 AM

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I'm not sure they need more than that.

So journalists should be prosecuted for receiving any classified information?

04-11-2019 , 09:23 AM

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The overwhelming majority of people would get clinically depressed if they didn't go outside for seven years.

You can't become clinically anything if you never go outside. Unless you are stuck in a clinic for those seven years. Which would admittedly be pretty depressing.

04-11-2019 , 09:26 AM

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Jesus, Obama declined to prosecute and GG still manages to make this about Dems somehow.

lol yep "Trump DOJ" is the one doing this but what REALLY grinds his gears is those hypocritty DEMOCRATS

04-11-2019 , 09:26 AM

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Indictment (06 Mar 2018): https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr...53481/download

Assange allegedly (tried to) helped Bradley/Chelsea Manning crack a password.

I missed that bit. GG, Assange, please find someone to take care of the cat.

04-11-2019 , 09:30 AM

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2+2 hero Snowden going hard in the paint for Assange on Twitter

No Edward no. The dude was not a journalist. That is an insult to actual journalists.

04-11-2019 , 09:32 AM

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I missed that bit. GG, Assange, please find someone to take care of the cat.

Assange allegedly agreed to help Manning crack a password but was unsuccessful in doing so. Interested to hear expert's opinions on the chances of conviction and the expected sentence. IANAL but doesn't feel like a slam dunk 45 year sentence.

04-11-2019 , 09:35 AM

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The US/UK extradition treaty is not complex. Apart from the death penalty there isn't much grounds for opposing. Very rare compassionate grounds which won't apply. Assange will probably appeal everything, but he will be held in custody while he does this, so he will just be increasing his jail time.