Why won't the authorities call the NYC bombings "terrorism"? - Page 6 - Politics and Economics

I don't expect you to ever get this, but Ferguson didn't blow up because of one shooting, or because some damn Yankee agitators came in there with their inflammatory words and got the local negroes all riled up.

Ferguson was the result of decades of police mistreatment of black people, and the FPD using the black populace as their "personal piggy bank" to fund all their operations. Michael Brown was just the match that lit the fuse.

So we should ignore Islamic terrorism but vehemently go after racism in our police departments even if it means some officers are falsely accused?

You seem very concerned about Muslims being falsely associated with terrorism but not so concerned with police officers falsely being accused of racism.

09-20-2016 , 02:10 AM

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Hint: one group typically has power, and one group has none. If radical Muslims had a long history of not being prosecuted for obvious terrorism, as cops have enjoyed for shooting and brutalizing black people, I would be a lot more concerned.

Also your argument is stupid because you could basically insert any transgression and say we shouldn't go after it because some might be falsely accused.

And it's even stupider because you seem to be implying we should accuse some 3 million US Muslims for the actions of a handful of *******s.

In summation: EYESCREW

09-20-2016 , 02:13 AM

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Yeah, but, see racism is not a "crime" to be "acussed" of... at least in this context... plus in your analogy you can't conflate...

F it nvm I can't do it. Dude is like a collection of breitbart comments gained sentience.

I refuse to believe these people are real.

09-20-2016 , 02:16 AM

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Yeah I hurt my brain trying to tease apart all the weird logical disconnects in that one simple analogy. Pretty impressive actually.

09-20-2016 , 03:38 AM

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They should require every potential immigrant to eat a pork chop and drink a beer to prove they are not Muslim.

I know you're trolling here but I've worked with Muslims that have observed Ramadan then piled down to the pub as soon as it was over.

09-20-2016 , 03:55 AM

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I know you're trolling here but I've worked with Muslims that have observed Ramadan then piled down to the pub as soon as it was over.

I was trying to troll Jews, but American Jews eat a lot of pork, too.

09-20-2016 , 03:58 AM

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Pizza also. This thread is horrendous.

09-20-2016 , 04:49 AM

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And surely you'd never advocate allowing people into the country who aren't on the same page as you when it comes to women's liberties...

And you call Trump supporters mysoginists? What's more mysoginistsic than the way women are treated in Muslim countries?

If you care about the misogyny of possible immigrants, wouldn't it make more sense to ban them based on that rather than just ban every member of a religion which you say is more misogynistic than all the others?

If there was a way to verify it, making it harder for people that don't support equal rights for women and gays to get in might actually be a good policy imo

09-20-2016 , 07:20 AM

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Is Eyescrew one of of these guys who hasn't seen a Muslim in 10 years but is super worried that one is going to show up in his small town in Arkansas and blow up the local Burger King where he gets his coffee in the morning? I love those guys.

09-20-2016 , 11:39 AM

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The vast majority of immigrants coming from muslim countries are trying to escape the mysogyny, totalitarianism, etc. If you grew up wearing a head scarf you keep wearing a head scarf because you feel naked without it, but there's nothing more to it than that. Your kids stop and you feel good about that too.

09-20-2016 , 12:28 PM

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Nobody is saying ban all Muslims forever. They should, however, stop being allowd into the United States until the safety of American citizens can be ensured. The fact you're against that is scary!

You - presumably an American man - are more likely to die from breast cancer.

You're more likely to be killed by a 5 year old.

Diarreah is orders of magnitude more likely to kill you.

If not Islamophobia, why are you so much more shook by Muslims than by the above?

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09-20-2016 , 02:58 PM

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Trump skittles analogy has roots in guess what regime: https://theintercept.com/2016/09/20/...-at-nuremberg/

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Trump’s tweet has clear parallels to Streicher’s children’s book, where a boy named Franz learns about the Jews from his mother:

“However they disguise themselves, or however friendly they try to be, affirming a thousand times their good intentions to us, one must not believe them. Jews they are and Jews they remain. For our Volk they are poison.”

“Like the poisonous mushroom!” says Franz.

“Yes, my child! Just as a single poisonous mushrooms can kill a whole family, so a solitary Jew can destroy a whole village, a whole city, even an entire Volk [nation].”

09-20-2016 , 03:16 PM

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LOL the irony... How long did your girl Hillary live in Arkansas?

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09-20-2016 , 03:53 PM

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So after letting in a million Muslim refugees you're saying Europe isn't having buyer's remorse?

Typical liberal mindset. Jump from the cliff now. Worry about the depth of the water later.

09-20-2016 , 03:56 PM

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LOL the irony... How long did your girl Hillary live in Arkansas?

I would enjoy seeing you attempt to expand on whatever the argument you think you're making here is.

You also ducked his implicit question- have you ever had any meaningful experience with a Muslim person?

09-20-2016 , 03:57 PM

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So after letting in a million Muslim refugees you're saying Europe isn't having buyer's remorse?

Typical liberal mindset. Jump from the cliff now. Worry about the depth of the water later.

What? No.

I'm saying you're exceptionally unlikely to be harmed by a foreign born Muslim.

I'm saying that diarreah, breast cancer and 5 year olds are far more dangerous to American men living in the states.

I'm asking why you think it is that the above doesn't scare you at all but Muslim refugees make you wet your pants.

09-20-2016 , 04:02 PM

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To summarize: we can't even consider any kind of stricter gun laws because gun nuts need to feel safe - even though 10s of 1000s of people die at the hands of guns every year. But we can marginalize an entire broad swath of people because they ostensibly worship the same savior as a death cult - even though a relatively tiny number of people are ever killed or injured by domestic terrorism every year.

09-20-2016 , 04:40 PM

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To be fair, he is probably scared by babies with diarreah (sp?).

09-20-2016 , 07:21 PM

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I lived my whole life save the last three years in Santa Monica. There's plenty of Muslims in LA thank you very much.

And not that your stupid question is deserving of an answer but my best friend in LA's name is Karim and his dad, who passed away four years ago, was a Muslim.

09-20-2016 , 07:56 PM

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I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by insinuating that you lived in a bubble. If you interact regularly with Muslims, and still believe what you profess to believe, I think less of you.

09-20-2016 , 08:00 PM

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Do you think the fact somebody was more likely to die from explosive diarrhea matters to a victim of Islamic terrorism?

Your statistics are cool and all but the simple fact remains the more Muslims we allow into the United States the more likely we are to be victims of Islamic Terrorism.

Also, the rate of Islamic related terrorism on United States soil hasn't gone down since Obama has been elected president so arguing a conservative president will only make things worse seems disingenuous.

09-20-2016 , 08:03 PM

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I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by insinuating that you lived in a bubble. If you interact regularly with Muslims, and still believe what you profess to believe, I think less of you.

I'll try not to lose any sleep.

09-20-2016 , 08:05 PM

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Eyescrew, where do you fall in the issue of gun control in America?

09-20-2016 , 08:07 PM

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Your statistics are cool and all but the simple fact remains the more Muslims we allow into the United States the more likely we are to be victims of Islamic Terrorism.

The higher we set speed limits in the USA, the more people will die in car crashes. We could save way more lives per year than terrorism will ever kill by agreeing to drive slower! "Some people will die" is not a checkmate, QED, argument-ending point.

Society views some level of expected death as acceptable. In the case of being able to drive faster, that number is high. In the case of racists who really hate brown people that practice a religion they don't like, that number is zero.

09-20-2016 , 08:33 PM

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Your statistics are cool and all but the simple fact remains the more Muslims we allow into the United States the more likely we are to be victims of Islamic Terrorism.

Are you willfully missing the point? Lots of things benefit society but also carry risk. And we happily agree to those tradeoffs all the time.

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