Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Wat. Corporations HATE Elizabeth Warren. She is the biggest proponent of trust busting in Congress. She also founded the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which has returned tens of billions of dollars from banks, payday lenders, etc to consumers. She doesn't take corporate PAC money and the majority of her campaign funds come from small dollar donors, unlike pretty much every Senator except Bernie. Gtfoh with this.

So what did I miss? I've been reading this thread and I've never even heard of her.

She beat a heavy favorite in a congressional primary running a socialist platform and will become the youngest ever woman to serve in congress (28).

Tons of people are understandably excited about her, but in reality she's probably a long way off from doing anything beyond the House.

citation?

Yes to all of this.

Id the democrats select her its 4 more years of Trump. I can just see Trump calling her Pocahantas every time he talks about her.

lol Warren would clobber Trump.

Warren seems firebrand enough to mobilize the Bernie/AOC wing, yet polished enough to not demobilize/ frighten away more moderate voters.
However, she would offer enough attack angles (e.g. „Pocahontas“/ being similar to Hillary in age and gender) to make it easier to mobilize deplorables. I would still consider her a favorite against Trump.
Beto winning against Cruz would seem a bit inexperienced to run for president, but after Obama and Trump that seems like a really lame angle of attack. +middle aged white dude +Texas EC votes would make him a dream candidate obviously (no idea about his positions though)

I think the same was said of Hilary. Many view her as another Hilary. Bottom line is the turnout is there pretty much anyone can beat Trump

I dunno if you guys have noticed but women and minorities have been running pretty well lately. This idea that being a woman is going to be a significant disadvantage to worry about with Warren is just not true. HRC lost because she's a corporatist shill who hasn't demonstrated a commitment to anything in her life beyond what was politically advantageous at the time, not because she was a woman. And the fact that Warren has been a target of right wing smear campaigns for years and the best attack they've come up with is "Pocahontas" is actually a good sign. You realize Trump will come up with some stupid nickname for anyone who runs against him, right?

Pocahontas is a pretty effective one for tapping into racial resentment.

Women have run well in Congressional races, but it's fair to conjecture a difference between the effect of sexism in elections for one member of a huge body versus the most powerful person on earth. We already know for a fact that sexism played a role in 2016. Exit surveys showed this. Here's a poll from 2007 showing only 89% of self-identified moderates willing to vote for a woman president (along with 96% of liberals and 82% of conservatives).

https://news.gallup.com/poll/26611/s...andidates.aspx

If Hillary does 3 points better among moderates - let alone 11 points better - in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, we don't live in this hell world of never ending stupidity and cruelty.

What about Randy Bryce - the guy who scared Paul Ryan into not running again?

I know Donald Trump is President, but cmon man. The guy will have spent 6 months in the House with no prior governing experience by the time he's starting his Pres campaign.

I'm sure that Bryce is a fine dude, but if we ever have a President named Randy I am joining ISIS.

with a truly fair elections ya. but the russians are gonna hack voting machines with the help of republican election officials and actually change votes this time.

Still better than Bernie running again

Unless it's this one:

I think she'd lose pretty clearly. She has less appeal to the midwest than Hillary. Zero charisma is also a big problem. As for others, Gillibrand is pretty much Hillary politically to the tee. There just isn't much in the dem party right now but they still got 2 years.

Demographics improve but I think people still underestimate how much people in this country hate women (including women).

Can you elaborate on what constitutes "appeal to the midwest" and how, whatever this is, Hillary had more of it than Oklahoma native Elizabeth Warren?

One of the big tells that the GOP is purely running on white nationalism is the fact that the "pocahontas" race treachery thing is all they've got, despite Warren having all kinds of zany far-left policy views.


Warren could win. Gillennbrand could win. Literally anyone not named "Clinton" can beat Trump in 2020. OK, maybe Bloomberg could lose, but any other nominee can win.

I actually think Hillary wins if there were to be a re-do in 2020.

Un, no. Pretty much everyone here thought Hillary was a godawful choice.

I’d vote for this guy I guess. Biden 100%

Will bet on this straight up if you're interested. Contingent on Trump and Warren being the nominees, obv.