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Who will run against Trump in 2020? Who will run against Trump in 2020?

05-20-2018 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OneEyedPoker
He uses ‘en’ in all 3 spots where he wants to use ‘ing’
Yes, but the other times the mistake at least results in an actual word. "Keepen" should immediately stand out as wrong to anyone who is literate.
05-21-2018 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by patriots
trump cant be stopped,he could possibly go down as the best president to ever live
You're right. Hitler only just barely came short of achieving that as well.
05-21-2018 , 11:21 AM
so unfortunate too, who would have ever thought the leader of the supreme master race was a deficient, trembling, loser manlet who couldn't manage to get through a day without using drugs
05-21-2018 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
Beto is a nice bloke and all, but he ain't beating Cruz. Sure, he'll overperform, but I don't think that's going to really propel him into the national spotlight. Would love to be wrong, though.
Cruz is pretty much despised by everyone though. His only real asset is that Beto is a liberal and 'Texas don't elect liberals'. Meanwhile Beto is running a pretty issue oriented campaign, but when he does hammer Cruz it's usually on him being more interested in becoming President than in representing his voters, which is a huge negative against Cruz.

Also hilarious is that Cruz tried to put him down by making fun of the fact that he has a Spanish nickname when he's a white dude (Beto's real name is Albert, which in Spanish is Alberto, hence the 'Beto', and it's a common nickname), when he himself has the opposite (Rafael - Ted). Kind of falls in the **** you can't make up camp.

Cruz does have the Ted Cruz Campaign Song though. Which everyone should listen to, it's pretty hilarious. Gotta give him chops for that.

Last edited by dinopoker; 05-21-2018 at 11:32 AM.
05-21-2018 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Crazy thought, but how about someone not born in the 1940s?
Normally I'd agree, but Bernie would beat trump by a larger margin than anyone else, and that's too important this time to worry about his age.
05-22-2018 , 01:44 AM
Huge Beto fan, and been looking more into him. But as far as I understand one of his biggest campaign points is Cruz cares more about being president than caring for Texas. Which is a legit campaign point, but not sure you can turn around and run for president in 2020 if you beat Cruz when you were crushing Cruz for going for Prez so quick. But not like anything matters anymore when running.
05-22-2018 , 12:36 PM
Officially using my one time on Bernard Sanders
05-22-2018 , 02:13 PM
Ugh Sanders and Biden? Still? If those are the 2 best hopes, strap yourself in for 4 more years of President Trump.
05-22-2018 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Does anyone else think that using the word "keepen" should disqualify one from voting?
Most racist post of all time award now moves to its rightful place on chillrob's mantle. Sorry, huehuecoyotl, no king reigns forever.
05-22-2018 , 04:46 PM
Surely there is someone in the party who can run who is less than 200 years old. What about Booker or Harris?
05-22-2018 , 04:54 PM
I don't want Booker at all. Harris might be okay.
05-22-2018 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Most racist post of all time award now moves to its rightful place on chillrob's mantle. Sorry, huehuecoyotl, no king reigns forever.
Hmm, I didn't even think about what race that Trump supporter with poor spelling and grammar was. What race are you assuming?
05-22-2018 , 05:29 PM
Don't project your bad juju on me, literacy test boy.
05-22-2018 , 06:21 PM
Is this some sort of meta-joke that I am missing, commenting on how the politics forum mainly exists to call people racists?
05-22-2018 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
I don't want Booker at all. Harris might be okay.
Booker is black, telegenic, young, charismatic, and can deliver a rousing speech. Reminds me of another guy who managed to win 2 terms.
05-22-2018 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Booker is black, telegenic, young, charismatic, and can deliver a rousing speech. Reminds me of another guy who managed to win 2 terms.
Meh...Booker does not have the charisma or once a generation speaking ability that Obama does. I'm not sure the whole "He's another Obama because he's young and black" argument really holds much weight.

Obama won because he was Obama. Selling Booker as Obama lite seems akin IMO to all the guys that came after Michael Jordan and were billed as the "next Jordan."
05-22-2018 , 07:00 PM
Booker is no Obama, but he doesn't have to be to defeat Donald Trump.
05-22-2018 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Surely there is someone in the party who can run who is less than 200 years old. What about Booker or Harris?
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
I don't want Booker at all. Harris might be okay.
They're both great, but they don't really mobilize the voters like the Dems are going to need the 2020 candidate to do. A stage presence if you will. Trump has it in spades. Aside from Biden and Bernie, not many of the other frontrunners do.
05-22-2018 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckleslovakian
Huge Beto fan, and been looking more into him. But as far as I understand one of his biggest campaign points is Cruz cares more about being president than caring for Texas. Which is a legit campaign point, but not sure you can turn around and run for president in 2020 if you beat Cruz when you were crushing Cruz for going for Prez so quick. But not like anything matters anymore when running.
Maybe this is why him losing might even give him a better shot.

Like, hey Texas wasn't ready for us, but America sure is!
05-22-2018 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
Maybe this is why him losing might even give him a better shot.

Like, hey Texas wasn't ready for us, but America sure is!
That is pretty tough spin to make the case that losing in a bid for a Senate seat would be a springboard to the Presidency. He is going to be running against numerous sitting Senators and possibly a former Vice President.

Presidents don't come from the House; it hasn't happened since Garfield in 1880.

Yes, Trump won in 2016 without any public sector experience. But Trump also has an over the top personality that allowed him to monopolize television coverage. That wouldn't be the case with Beto.
05-22-2018 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Surely there is someone in the party who can run who is less than 200 years old. What about Booker or Harris?
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
I don't want Booker at all. Harris might be okay.
KANDER 2020
05-22-2018 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Booker is black, telegenic, young, charismatic, and can deliver a rousing speech. Reminds me of another guy who managed to win 2 terms.
I still don't get why people think he is charismatic. He comes off as so fake to me. Obama rarely did. If anyone has a link to one of these rousing speeches that showcases his charisma, I'd love to watch it.
05-22-2018 , 10:14 PM
I agree - Booker didn't exactly blow the roof off at the DNC, and doing just that is how Obama first entered the national spotlight iirc
05-22-2018 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bored5000
That is pretty tough spin to make the case that losing in a bid for a Senate seat would be a springboard to the Presidency. He is going to be running against numerous sitting Senators and possibly a former Vice President.

Presidents don't come from the House; it hasn't happened since Garfield in 1880.

Yes, Trump won in 2016 without any public sector experience. But Trump also has an over the top personality that allowed him to monopolize television coverage. That wouldn't be the case with Beto.
You're 100% right, but at the end of the day I think if the party and the base gets behind him the lack of experience won't hurt him. the thing he has going for him is that he's a Kennedy-esque young progressive with good policy positions and that he can build a helluva coalition to take on Trump. A potential magic bullet could also be an endorsement from Bernie, if Sanders comes to the realization that he is too old and too left to win against Trump.

Tell you this much, I like him a lot better than any of the other names we talk about regularly (with the possible exception of Oprah). 2020 is a maybe the most important election in the history of the country, and going into it with someone like John Kerry from 2004 is not going to get the job done. It just can't be a cookie cutter Dem. The GOP has stacked the deck so badly that even going up against someone as monumentally horrible as Trump is still going to be an uphill slog, and so it's going to take a legit transformitve figure. I sure don't see too many like that in the Dem party right now. Does anyone else?
05-23-2018 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bored5000
Presidents don't come from the House; it hasn't happened since Garfield in 1880.
Exactly this, come back to Earth people.

I HOPE the dems nominate Tim Gunn, I THINK they'll nominate Ryan Seacrest.

      
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