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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
Scew a celebrity without a solid history on policy. Screw the old people, even if they have the policy background.
We need new candidates with ideas in the mainstream. We put up a leftist with only leftist policies we lose to Trump. Thats just unacceptable.
If the Bernie bros had held their nose and got behind Hillary we wouldnt have Trump. Surely thats a better outcome we can agree on?
The complaint about Sanders => Trump voters is just
complaining about the weather:
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For example, Schaffner tells NPR that around 12 percent of Republican primary voters (including 34 percent of Ohio Gov. John Kasich voters and 11 percent of Florida Sen. Marco Rubio voters) ended up voting for Clinton. And according to one 2008 study, around 25 percent of Clinton primary voters in that election ended up voting for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in the general. (In addition, the data showed 13 percent of McCain primary voters ended up voting for Obama, and 9 percent of Obama voters ended up voting for McCain — perhaps signaling something that swayed voters between primaries and the general election, or some amount of error in the data, or both.)
The centrists have run out of stuff to threaten the left with. They got their way and they lost anyway. The thing they said would happen if they didn't get their way happened anyway. Crying about Russia and primary=>general defections entirely consistent with previous elections is just a refusal to face the fact that their platform lost, and lost to Donald ****ing Trump. If the centrists getting their way doesn't guarantee the right is kept out, then it's not at all important that the centrists get their way.
And it's not just the POTUSbowl. The centrists have been getting their way downticket, too, and they've been losing downticket (the current swing notwithstanding, especially considering the relatively high number of markedly left candidates that have won some of those races). Centrism, it turns out, is not the universally sensible, practical, sure-fire winner we've been told.
So sure, let's not run Leon Trotsky. But the left is - or at least, IMO should be - done moving to the centre. The centre is going to have to move left.