Good point about a sitting red state senator, though now i think i wouldn't be opposed to him exploring a run say if he runs Ted Cruz close, but loses in texas by like 5 points or less.

Inexperience may be a problem with both candidates, but I'm thinking that it may be ideal to avoid more name brand candidates who republicans already have years of smear material on, no matter how substantial or insubstantial their attacks are. For example, news came out today that Eric Holder might be considering a campaign. I'd be disinclined him to support him early on, just because fast and furious, a real tempest in a teapot, is already in the minds of millions of low-info right wing media consumers, and inevitably crap "scandals" like this will be often repeated uncritically in mainstream outlets.

Trump already showed how to manipulate this echo chamber with one flawed candidate, between his nonstop coverage in the free traditional media and social media, all the while shrugging off the piles and piles of red flags that surfaced about him.

That said, all other things being equal, whoever has the most inspiring and aspirational message, and whoever can communicate best with the most voters, should be the nominee. But grading out all other quantities equally, I might be more willing to go for a Beto O'Rourke or a Tammy Duckworth than a more well-known brand like Elizabeth Warren.

i think so, but turnout was extra low in 2016 because people weren't sure if trump would really be this bad. tough to imagine it'll be that low again. although you know tons of people will vote jill stein in swing states again lol

I would like to learn more about Duckworth, from what little I know it seems she has a nice combination of leadership, ability to debate well against Trump, and ability to put Trumpkins on megatilt if she wins.

Obv the last one isn't a reason to support her, but it's a nice piece of icing on the cake.

I would love to see her run but you really think enough independents are not only willing to vote for a woman but a woman with no legs at that.

You are really in tune with the deplorables. A sane person would think isn't the fact that Duckworth lost her legs in combat a point in her favor?

But the deplorable mind says NO, I bet she got alot of special treatment for having no legs and maybe she even cut them off herself. I heard they just handed her a Senate seat for no having legs.

Trump will call her TAMMY NO LEGS, and the deplorables will instantly associate that with how the Ds are always trying to pull a fast one on you and take advantage of laws giving special treatment.

Cutting off their own legs to try to get people to feel sorry for them and vote them President....... Not falling for it dirty Ds, nope, not gonna happen on my watch.

Oh ****, I just notice that unintentional and terrible pun I made. I would love to see her announce her candidacy for president and would volunteer for her.

On the one hand, this is (unfortunately) a good point. On the other hand, Trump's reaction to running against a woman with no legs could be much much worse in the minds of independents.

I still can't see a woman with two babies running for president.

Hakeem is a big charter school guy. Zero chance the Democrats run him and risk a teacher's union revolt when Trump is already siphoning off union rank and file support.

Oh, I think it's quite likely some anti-Union Democrats run.

But that reminds me of a truck I saw yesterday with "Live Better/Work Union" and Trump stickers.

- I didn't know that Jeffries was pro-charter schools.

In a different political climate, that fact might have been too high a hurdle for him to clear within the establishment. These days, I'm not at all sure. Look at California. Pro-charter Antonio Villaraigosa has been gaining on early favorite and traditional pro-union Gavin Newsom; the last poll for the open jungle primary had it 23-21. Those will probably be the 2 candidates on the November ballot.

Newsom of course will be on some people's 2020 lists. Big money will obviously be behind him should he be seriously interested.

I dont get this attitude. Have you done any research on Joe Kennedy or just said, hes the grandson of Robert Kennedy so hes disqualified? I dont get where this perception that he is some DNC stooge is coming from. He has proven otherwise.

He has worked for the poor and working middle class families his whole life. Do the research. He has chosen to help others no matter what he was doing at any point in his life. He's the real deal. He lives the words he speaks in his speeches.

He will be able to turn those poor and working poor whites that left the Democratic party in those battleground states back into democratic voters again. But, still because of his earnest beliefs, keep the other members of the Obama coalition on board.

Trump would beat Kennedy
by more than he beat Hillary.

Which extra states would Trump win?

lol he didn’t think that far, he is just so mad at liberals rn

So is Booker iirc and he is like 90% to run with full DemE support.

Voted in 2015 against protecting medical marijuana users from Federal prosecution and against a measure preventing Justice Dept interference with state marijuana laws. His biggest bankrollers include Crescent Capital, Bank of America and Bain Capital. Owns stock in Exxon Mobil and Gilead Sciences, who make an extremely overpriced Hep-C drug that's drawn controversy.

In any decision between the good of the people and the good of the pharma industry, this moist-chinned Habsburg-lite fop has already told you which way he'll go. Hard pass.

Hi W00t,
Which Democratic candidates have a chance at beating Trump?
Thanks!

Damn. And bastard.

I think he already said Biden, easily the worst of the serious 2020 contenders. Would govern to the right of Bill Clinton. No hope of anything better than Obamacare even with super majorities in both houses.

Maybe John Kerry, maybe Oprah, maybe a famous non-politician.

Oprah destroys anybody.

She's richer than Sheldon Adleson, Mark Cuban, and Trump combined, she has her own media empire, and most importantly women from both ends of the political spectrum love the bejeezus out of her. And that's not even factoring in her obvious appeal to minorities.

It's hers if she wants it. Easiest landslide victory ever.

Which Democrats definitely have a chance to beat Trump? Corker? Flake? McCain?

I really hope Democrats are smart enough to nominate someone who has some idea what they are doing, and not ****ing Oprah.

Oprah is a grifter. She'd abuse the office for financial gain just like Trump has, I guarantee it.