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Who will run against Trump in 2020? Who will run against Trump in 2020?

03-21-2019 , 09:14 AM
Uh...

03-21-2019 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
My comment still stands.
LOL sure bro. She was already on the MSNBC ****list when they tried to primary her last year. Her house seat is safe as long as she wants it. She has a strong chance of being Hawaii senator some day.
03-21-2019 , 10:30 AM
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ection-1230495
That's a depressing story about the current president, despite his favouribility, is at least a slight favourite for 2020 now and if the election was held today he'd win by a landslide. I just assumed being an incompetent, sleazy, grifty, lunatic baby would preclude re-election. It sucks realizing you are naive.
03-21-2019 , 10:36 AM
There was another similar piece this morning on Business Insider

The right keeps pushing further and further rightward (next stop fascism!) but that's not bad; what's bad is the WAY TOO FAR LEFT snap-backward in response, so the neo-fascist gets another term.
03-21-2019 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Just a reminder that I already said that Michelle Obama will swoop in and save the day. After which i will finally achieve my proper place in the pantheon of preeminent predictors.
LOL
03-21-2019 , 10:43 AM
All that article says is that historically a good economy = re-election, and thus people who believe that is pretty much the only variable that matters think Trump will be re-elected.

That is a sobering reality check but nothing to freak out about.
03-21-2019 , 11:01 AM
The economy is slowing though.

Not that it matters much, because the Trump team will just say it isn't, but his policies are slowly starting to hurt things, just as pretty much everyone predicted.
03-21-2019 , 11:06 AM
I just drove through Malibu and where it was possible the sides of the road were lined with people living in cars and old RVs. This is ubiquitous. GDP and unemployment numbers aren't the whole story.
03-21-2019 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Newsom is my outside longshot
Stacey Abrams? Although I've heard that Biden might announce her as his running mate when he announces (which would be pretty brilliant actually).
03-21-2019 , 11:41 AM
lolz, of course revots is hype for Biden/Abrams.
03-21-2019 , 11:49 AM
In other "not John Hickenlooper" news: Hickenlooper wonders, on CNN town hall, why female candidates aren't being asked if they'd choose a man for their running mate

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Just how hazardous these dilemmas may prove in the Democratic contest became clear on Wednesday, when John Hickenlooper, the former governor of Colorado, was asked what is becoming a stock question for men seeking the Democratic nomination: whether they would choose a female running mate if they thwarted plans for a female standard-bearer.

“Of course,” the mild-mannered 67-year-old centrist, who went from geologist to brewer to politician, told CNN’s Dana Bash in a town hall in Atlanta. He would have a bevy of options. Already six women are White House contenders.

Then he tried to flip the script, succeeding mainly in illustrating how fraught the gender politics of the Democratic primary are shaping up to be.

“Well, I’ll ask you another question,” he said. “But how come we’re not asking, more often, the women, ‘Would you be willing to put a man on the ticket?’”
Amazing
03-21-2019 , 12:09 PM
Did not see the town hall but I am giving the benefit of the doubt that Hickenlooper intended that to be a pro-woman comment and it came out wrong.
03-21-2019 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Welp. You had s good run John.
03-21-2019 , 12:27 PM
Wow am I the only one who thinks he was clearly trying to say that there are so many great women candidates that maybe men should be asking the women if THEY are worthy of being on the ticket, instead of vice-versa? He was basically underscoring the absurdity of the question. It was meant to be a complement, albeit it came out awkwardly.

The level of outrage over this is pretty lol, but I suspect it symbolizes how the dems will eat each other over the next 15 months or so.

I mean, the guy had no chance anyway so who cares I guess... but you never know who the twitter mob will come for next.
03-21-2019 , 12:36 PM
It's a pretty tactless question.
03-21-2019 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
In other "not John Hickenlooper" Hickenlooper wonders, on CNN town hall, why female candidates aren't being asked
Makes you think. Why aren‘t those so-called journalists comcerned that men might have held only 90/92 presidencies and vice-presidencies instead of 91/92?
03-21-2019 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Wow am I the only one who thinks he was clearly trying to say that there are so many great women candidates that maybe men should be asking the women if THEY are worthy of being on the ticket, instead of vice-versa? He was basically underscoring the absurdity of the question. It was meant to be a complement, albeit it came out awkwardly.

The level of outrage over this is pretty lol, but I suspect it symbolizes how the dems will eat each other over the next 15 months or so.

I mean, the guy had no chance anyway so who cares I guess... but you never know who the twitter mob will come for next.
that is a somewhat a plausible explanation so i went and looked up the clip. YMMV but to me it reads like he's just a dumbass rather than he was trying to score some woke man points:



also is there 'outrage' over this? the only people i've seen mention it were just like, 'that's a pretty stupid thing to say,, but who cares it's John Hickenlooper', which is hard to argue with.
03-21-2019 , 01:02 PM
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Hickenlooper stood by the comment after the town hall, telling CNN that his point was "too often media discounts the chance of a woman winning" by asking questions like that.
"They are never asked that question. Or at least, maybe I have missed it, but women I know feel that is a form of discounting, that they are less likely to win the nomination. That is what I am talking about," Hickenlooper said. "People can take it out of context."
At least he's getting some news coverage I guess.
03-21-2019 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I just drove through Malibu and where it was possible the sides of the road were lined with people living in cars and old RVs. This is ubiquitous. GDP and unemployment numbers aren't the whole story.
We need to start using new measurements.
03-21-2019 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Wow am I the only one who thinks he was clearly trying to say that there are so many great women candidates that maybe men should be asking the women if THEY are worthy of being on the ticket, instead of vice-versa? He was basically underscoring the absurdity of the question. It was meant to be a complement, albeit it came out awkwardly.

The level of outrage over this is pretty lol, but I suspect it symbolizes how the dems will eat each other over the next 15 months or so.

I mean, the guy had no chance anyway so who cares I guess... but you never know who the twitter mob will come for next.
Im not outraged. I just know how this **** works. See: Howard Dean. It doesnt take much more than saying something stupid to get sunk. Especially in a field this size.
03-21-2019 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Wow am I the only one who thinks he was clearly trying to say that there are so many great women candidates that maybe men should be asking the women if THEY are worthy of being on the ticket, instead of vice-versa? He was basically underscoring the absurdity of the question. It was meant to be a complement, albeit it came out awkwardly.
That's how I interpreted it.

But as mentioned, these unforced errors are enough to force somebody out of the race early. It's why Joe Biden hasn't officially announced yet. He's waiting for the field to thin itself out before jumping in.
03-21-2019 , 05:47 PM
Michelle vs. Trump debates would be amazing
03-21-2019 , 05:49 PM


03-21-2019 , 05:51 PM
It's nice that out of all the problems going on in the world today, the one thing they decide to have a debate on is cutting a piece of skin off your kid's dick.
03-21-2019 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
It's nice that out of all the problems going on in the world today, the one thing they decide to have a debate on is cutting a piece of skin off your kid's dick.
Don't want to derail, but the fact America has normalized mutilating infant male genitals, even for non-religions reasons, is actually a pretty ****ed up thing and does not get near the attention it deserves.

      
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