Jeb Bush says a Republican should run against Trump in 2020

FTR I agree with both of these posts

I feel like young Beto would think middle-aged Beto is a ****ing tool.

I don't how good goofyballer is with assembly language, but I'm sure he's not just a script monkey. "Script monkey" is a weird way to put that anyway, because although "script" is part of "javascript" and javascript is indeed very high level (not that "high level" is bad), network/security people (the stuff we're talking about) do more of what is generally thought of as scripting (like bash) than developers like goofy. (at least that's my understanding/guess of what goofy does)

It's rare for a party to hold the presidency for more than 2 terms. You better make it count. There will be another Republican president at some point. It's no good if the scoreboard after 1 Democratic and 1 Republican presidency looks like this:

tax cuts for the rich
dismantled democratic institutions
increased the deficit and national debt
trade wars
muslim ban
children in cages
alienated all allies
gutted environmental regulations
put global warming into overdrive
2-3 rightwing ideologues on the SC
stacked all lower courts

vs.

Romneycare
2 moderate SC justices

afaik it's script kiddie or code monkey but not script monkey

Who said health care is a "victory button"? Talk about a strawman.

All of your vote counting and analysis just confirms that Abrams overperformed.

Based on what? Hillary won popular vote by 2.1 and lost Georgia by 5.1. So Georgia is naively 7.2 redder than nation. Midterms were D+8.6 so Abrams winning by 1.4 would be reasonable. She ended up losing by 1.4. In high profile statewide midterm races she did worse than Beto and Bresden, better than Gillum and about the same as Sinema, though maybe we should give Sinema bonus points for actually winning. Really nothing there to say she overperformed.

I am skeptical the margins of a general election can be applied to a midterm election two years later.

You’re free to make some other argument that she did overperform or just take it as an article of faith that she did. But you shouldn’t be surprised if people (even in a non analytical place like this) find the latter unconvincing.

I don't know if she overperformed or not. I don't have any numbers either. I'd look at the turnout and winning/losing margin among the different voting blocs (Black/Hispanic/White/etc., young/old, urban/rural, poor/middle-class/rich, college/non-college, ...) to see how she fared compared to national averages and previous GA state elections.

A national surge in only certain voting blocs is more valuable in some states than in others due to the very different demographics. For example higher (than usual) turnout and Democratic vothing share among African American voters is more valuable in DC than in Alaska.

I’ll say this, if she actually throws a stapler at Putin, I might consider voting for her.

Surprised nobody at least admits they were part of that Cow group Beto was in with the amount of shady programmers on here.

Good post.

And not only that, but for substantial legislative accomplishments, you need a trifecta in today's political climate. Literally zero Republicans voted for Obamacare.

2020 may be the last chance in a long time for Democrats to win a trifecta. It's nearly impossible to win one (or even hold one) while already holding the presidency. And clustering, gerrymandering, voting ****ery, etc will make it harder and harder for Democrats going forward.

So it's REALLY important this time around. Unfortunately, I think the most likely outcome for the near future is:
- Democrat wins POTUS but Republicans hold the senate
- Because of this, Dem POTUS accomplishes nothing and can't get any judges through either
- Red wave(s) in midterm(s), which almost always happens anyway but will definitely happen if Democrats can't accomplish anything
- Republican wins POTUS in either 2024 or 2028

Democrats desperately need another opportunity like 2008 to try to break the cycle, level the playing field, and put some real accomplishments on the board. Combine demographic changes with substantial accomplishments and maybe you even get a durable political realignment.

during the primaries beto will be the media darling because bernie, but as someone else mentioned they will turn on him if he makes it to the general. trump is their cash cow and cnn won't want to go back to running plane crash coverage for a month straight and msnbc is nothing without trump-russia.

bartleby o'rourke

trump is just a guy. if you replaced him with pence or cruz, the same **** would still be going on, it would just be way more low-key, and could potentially even be worse.

now imagine if obama had used his supermajority to pass single payer healthcare instead of romneycare: all dems would ever have to run on would be protecting everyone's free healthcare.

however as it stands running and winning with another centrist dem will just be a literal repeat of the last decade, except this time after republicans get done destroying whatever compromise healthcare solution gets passed, there will be a younger, further-right, and more organized version of trump telling everyone that only he can fix it.

Who is a shady programmer on here?

i bet bernie outraised him yesterday. there is a big grassroots effort to donate to bernie on the day beto and biden announce

Came here to post this, lol what a cuck. Also:

WTF is Beto doing? He'd be a goddamn rock star if he would just have some conviction and stand for something. Remember that answer to the NFL players kneeling question? Where is that guy?

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wooooooooooooooo oh man thanks for some levity today, that was ****ing great

a lot of people are saying script monkeys are shady af