Is it me, or is this guy kinda great?

Yang is running to win but he’s also surely realistic about it and knows he’s drawing practically dead. You just can’t say that because the moment you do you get phased out of all media.

If UBI becomes a mandatory democratic platform point next cycle the way climate change and some form of healthcare for all have this cycle it’s a win for progressivism.

Anyone who thinks UBI is a good idea should be donating a single dollar and joining the YANG GANG while answering him as a preferred candidate if polled and pushing for his legitimacy. There is a small chance he is actually viable 9 months from now when primaries are only 3 months away and then you’ll still be able to hitch your wagon wherever you want. There is nothing that says people can’t support multiple candidates at this point when most of America is a year out from the primary.




I don’t know for sure if trickle up economics of UBI will be economically beneficial but my gut and logic says it will. My economics background certainly never taught it but what it did teach was about velocity of money and circulating dollars to poor people will increase that and stimulate activity.

There is also the added fact that it will be necessary in some capacity in the future but it’s a question of if it’s 5 years or 50 years away from being necessary and the damage done by being too early is far less than that of being too late even for the rich as we saw what happened to asset prices in the recession.

I hesitate to say that UBI is more important in the short term than universal healthcare or climate change but I think those are absolutely the three most important policy issues this cycle and Yang checks each box even if he’s not the most progressive on the other two.

I'm not saying that guy is too churchy and looks like the church lady, but I'm not not saying that either.

Talking about scripture and the gospel and alluding that it's a prerequisite to being a good person?

"Once he gets on the debate stage..." is the exact same **** the Ron Paul stans were saying in 2012.

what's with yang's headshot on predictit? Is it from his own webcam? It looks like it was taken about two seconds after yang saw his own price on predictit

This. I'd go with:

Under our plan you'll pay less and have none of the hassle for a higher quality of care. Right now there are two ways you get private health insurance. One is that your employer pays most of the cost, you pay a little, and then you deal with copays and deductibles, figuring out who's in network, and getting various types of care approved. The other is that you pay all of the cost, and then deal with all of the same hassle. Under our plan, you and/or your employer pay the up front part in taxes instead of to an insurer. This will cost less on average than you're paying now - and then you go get the care you need for free, and that's it. No networks, no copays, no deductibles.

Again, this is the important part... Under our plan you'll pay less and have none of the hassle while receiving a higher quality of care.

In Debate/Town Hall format you could open with:

Would you rather pay Joe $400 a month for C-level coverage with copays, deductibles and hassle, or pay Sam $350 a month for A-level coverage with no copays, no deductibles and no hassle or confusion? I'd rather pay Sam, and I think most Americans agree. So that's what our plan does. Instead of paying private insurers and average of $400 a month, you'll pay Uncle Sam $350 a month and get better care. In some cases, your employer was already paying for your coverage - we'll make sure they're still paying for it and even passing most of the savings on to you.

So our plan is giving you more money in your pocket and better care.

This. It's early enough to purity test all the candidates, etc, etc, but at some point everyone just has to pick their favorite, vote in the primaries, and see what happens. Whichever imperfect human prevails is still going to be massively better than Trump and better get unified support.

I'm quite intrigued by Yang's rise on PredictIt. I mean, no way is he 10% to win the nomination, right? Or is the thinking just that so many people will say, "That guy says he's giving me $12K a year if he wins, I'm voting for him!"

I think that proposal is probably a guaranteed L in the general, though. I think he'd be toast once the right starts slamming it by saying something like, "Yeah, but it'll cost the average American taxpayer $16K a year! So the average taxpayer is losing $4K a year!"

While it's better to be too early than too late with UBI, we clearly aren't there yet. (To the point where it's a necessity.)

I'm impressed how Yang has snatched Tulsi's corner of "the favorite dem primary candidate for people who are never, ever, ever voting Dem in the 2020 general election"

Huh? I voted for (and gave money to) Hillary and I will vote against Trump no matter who’s on the ticket in 2020.

By the way, the money I donated to Hillary campaign and some of her pacs were from betting on Trump to win GOP primary.

Crazy how times have changed.

I remember when RayJ called the Breakfast Club and told Charlamagne that he was going to put "booty goons" on the rapper Fabolous because of a altercation they had in Vegas.

Fwiw the reason it is a campaign stop is because their parent company IHeartRadio has done a lot of restructuring and cost cutting since terrestrial radio is dying. So they put this show on in like 50 different markets now rather than have their own shows for that market. So it is basically a national show now and thus reaches tons of people.

I want to see Yang on the debate stage after watching his JRE podcast - it's a conversation America needs to have and even if now isn't the time for a UBI it's eventually going to be inevitable that all countries need to decouple work from the ability to survive in society.

Made a $1 donation

At this stage probably going to donate $1 each to Sanders, Warren and Beto as well as they're probably the four candidates i'm considering at this stage. Harris is on the bubble of that I don't think I can get past her history as a prosecutor and will obviously vote for her if she wins the nomination but doubt she's going to be my first choice whereas I could see myself voting for any of Yang, Sanders, Warren or Beto by the time my state's primary comes around (or potentially another candidate even).

Can't people just buy it bc they think his stock will rise (I think he announced he qualified for the debates) and then sell when they perceive he has plateaued?

Or is that not how it works?

Maybe these memes are predict it model manipulation

Yang's rise means nothing. PredictIt is a super inefficient market. They have a cap of something like $800 that you can wager per line. That just generally means that, unlike most markets, square money tends to outweigh sharp money. Also, more specifically, on longshot bets like Yang, it takes like 10 guys putting in their max 800 to wager against Yang to balance out one guy putting in his 800 to wager for Yang. Also, betting on a line which will not resolve until July next year or whatever for a 10% ROI, even if a total certainty, is not really that spectacular a proposition. Not many people want to spend their limited funds on PredictIt doing that.

Stacey Abrams has said she has not ruled out jumping into the 2020 race.

I didn't get that vibe at all from that answer. Thought it was great.

Even if I didn't think it was great, I'm not throwing this guy to the trash heap for being a "little too churchy". He's the only one (to my knowledge) actually talking about Supreme Court reform.

Yang just seems a lot like the old days of politics betting where you could always pick up a small profit betting against the diehard fans of Ron/Rand Paul.

+1

I might not vote for him simply based on his incorrect usage of could/couldn't.

He is not a billionaire or an authoritarian.

Have you even tried to look up his platform?

The reason Yang is popular is because he is actually understands tech and understands what the real issues are for voters and has a plan to address it.

**** dude, this CIA bro really cracked that case.

Democratic reforms of corporations could lead to the US becoming a socialist hell-hole like Germany.

hes getting ratioed pretty hard. kind of surprised.

Uhh yang isn't "popular," a lot of 4chan NEETs saw him on joe rogan and now are memeing him because they want to get paid $1000 a month to play fortnite.

Looks like my union is planning on endorsing Biden when he announces. Barf.