Physician salaries are not the primary thing driving healthcare costs in the US. Just as an example here is graph of change in number of physicians and change in number of healthcare administrators (this is just change in total numbers of each, not salary but still shows useful concept).

I don't think people should have to pay for ambulances. I do think that people who call ambulances for constipation should have their ambulance rights revoked to some extent. I don't think these beliefs are contradictory.

Your analogy is not apt because in your scenario, whatever harm is being done is happening inside the family. In the case of this woman, she was doing damage to other people who were trying to use the medical system.

LOL revoking ambulance rights. You do realize that in many places in the Southern United States ambulances would stop going to black residential areas or would start going slowly on purpose?

Ok but these beliefs are bad. What happens when you revoke someone's ambulance rights and then they have a real emergency and they're poor and cannot afford the $650?

As noted above, who revokes these rights, under what basis? What is to stop certain groups of people being disproportionately punished for abusing the system and having their rights revoked while other groups of people are mysteriously not? Love to fix healthcare by turning the ambulance service into the ****ing police.


edit: removed the second part of this post cos i'm dumb and can't read and was arguing with a point that wasn't made, the rest stands tho

Probably not but that’s how much my private plan pays fwiw after the deductible is met

There was a policy suggestion a while back to post facto charge ambulance users if it were determined that they didn't have an emergency that required an ambulance.

I think they axed it because it was too difficult to clearly differentiate between illegitimate and legitimate uses. Some heart attack symptoms sound pretty mundane. So if you're having chest pains and you think you're having a heart attack but it ends up it was bronchitis or indigestion or something what do you do then? Then you have the issue of mobility of older people who may choose to use an ambulance rather than risk driving themselves even for more mundane things.

So this is inaccurate? Medicare for All: What it is, what it isn't

I wish this were true. We go on ambulance calls for absurd things every day. That said, most of the people that do this use the ER as their PCP due to lack of options.

eh, proly still not getting an ambulance in usa.

Woman: Please send an ambulance!

Dispatch: Ok what symptoms are you experiencing ma'am?

Woman: I can't poop.

Dispatch: You're constipated? Is that your only symptom? How many days has it been?

Woman: 2 days.

Dispatch: Please call your doctor tomorrow, this is not an emergency and you don't need an ambulance.

Problem solved.

If she goes hard in in the paint for universal basic income, reparations and the GND in a general election, she will absolutely be cast as a "loony lefty."

If she is the Democratic nominee in the general election, she will absolutely be cast as a "loony lefty."

kamala won the prosecutor election by running to the right of a guy who was known as one of the most progressive prosecutors of all time and under whom convictions dropped consistently.

she painted him as allowing criminals to run rampant and ran a bunch of ads and pictures of scary dudes putting up gang signs coming to getchya.

then she supported 3 strikes your out and threw ppl in jail for life for piddily amounts of drugs or shoplifting.

then she prosecuted parents who kids were truant from school.

oh an she laughed about all of those things after the fact and when acknowledging them.

she is a horrific person and candidate.

link please.

did search, can't find any evidence to support claim that she prosecuted parents of truant children and those parents did time in a california jail.

Did you try googling: prosecuted parents who kids were truant? It's the first result for me https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...secutions-clip. Or are you just trolling with the "did time in a california jail" part?

US has higher prices across the board but not by as much as some people assume for procedures also available in other countries. Diagnostic tests and drugs are WAY out of line but surgeries aren't much higher (given salary differentials and GDP/capital differentials) than what you'd expect.

Mods ? Can we nuke this massive derail please ?

No parents were arrested, and none were jailed, according to a prosecutor who still works on the issue in the current district attorney’s office. Instead, the parents were issued citations to come to court, where they could avoid a fine by completing a plan to improve their child’s attendance.

The claim in the post you quoted and the part you emphasized is that she prosecuted parents of truant children, which is undeniably true, so why are you going on about jail? That has nothing to do with anything. Who's saying she sent the parents to jail? You're arguing against a make believe foe.

booker trying to get the fox news watchers vote?

Read the article, why are we supposed to hate Harris for this? They made the parents come up with a plan to increase attendance to avoid a fine. My understanding is in Europe it’s completely standard to fine parents of truant kids and thought I remember reading England collects about 25 million in these fines each year.

as i understand prosecution in the United States, the first step in that process is an arrest. from the source you linked, it appears as though the number of parents prosecuted for refusing to send their children to school, under Harris as AG, is zero.

perhaps this quote from Mehdi Hasan (KAMALA HARRIS WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT. BUT WHAT ABOUT HER RIGHT-WING PAST?) better describes what Victor was referring to;

Sorry, Senator, that’s bull****. That’s a complete evasion. It’s not that prosecutors shouldn’t exist, it’s that prosecutors, especially Democrats who one day want to run for president, shouldn’t have a record of such awfulness on drug cases, or police use of force cases, or official misconduct cases, or legal marijuana or the death penalty. They shouldn’t brag about being a cop who used their badge to scare the **** out of the parents of truant kids — disproportionately poor and non-white parents, I might add.

Read the article

Do you realize the thread you are in?

Other posters trolling aside, why are we supposed to be upset about this? Looks like they didn’t actually fine the parents, whereas is Europe it sounds standard to fine parents for truanacy of kids.