Rogan doesn't like that he's been called alt right adjacent, and as a result he's probably never going to own the libs by never voting Democrat again, if he ever had in the past

i also lol'd

I will say that Rogan had some good moments in a Jordan Peterson interview (saw a clip on The Majority Report) where he attacked/picked apart at JP's incoherent nonsense, and I'm sure there's other times like that.

But then says stuff like "yea these people just want free stuff [from government]".

Any word on why he stopped believing?

When the illuminati abducted him they set him straight.

dealbreaker

Rumor has it Bernie announces on a morning show tomorrow...

Trump must be worried about Bernie with all the socialist fearmongering lately.

Bernie officially in

[banging on table] BERNIE, BERNIE

I got £500 down on Bernie 12-1 to win the nomination before the announcement. Odds have gone slightly down today and I'm deciding whether I want to reload for more @ 11-1.

12-1 seems about right tbh

Any idea where I can go to see movement on Trump odds since this announcement? I have oddschecker.com up but idk what it was before

The field as large as it’s going to be Bernie’s plurality should be enough the same way it carried trump. My question is what are the odds the superduperdelegates subvert the vote?

The large field hurts Bernie, especially since that large field does not feature Hillary Clinton.

All of Bernie's weaknesses (relative lack of appeal to minorities for example) will be on much sharper display when he's running into more politically savvy and more charismatic candidates like Cory Booker.

Bernie's best chance may be having someone like Joe Biden clearing the field early and then portraying Biden as a Hillary like insider (he is) and grabbing enough delegates to make it impossible/irrelevant for super delegates to go Biden's way.

heh Booker's odds right now are longer than those of Michael Pence

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...on-2020/winner

On a related note I finally understand what all those ads on the FIFA players' jerseys mean

Warren's child care proposal might just get me on her bandwagon.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eliza...b01757c36c2511

Imagine thinking Corey Booker is more charismatic than Bernie Sanders.


At any rate, here's where things stand, 11 candidates officially have their hat in the ring:

Saw Sanders on CBS This Morning. First off, he looks great and sounds as sharp and energetic as ever. Those are good signs given age is one of the concerns about him.

He is also an undeniably good speaker. He's just an interesting guy to listen to. He's also authentic, no artifice about the guy, which is tough to come by in politics.

We've had that around here, by the way. The system was rife with fraud. It was easy to scam the government because they're incompetent, and a few years ago nearly 200 supposed daycare centers in Milwaukee were shut down after crackdown investigations. Tens/hundreds of millions of dollars were stolen from the WI treasury. One lady in particular managed to swindle over $3,000,000 from the system and was arrested in her fancy new house. She was eligible for 35 years in prison but sentenced to 14 months.

Christ, the school districts themselves participate in sketchy behavior by artificially inflating attendance on the "count days" so they get more state funding, I can't imagine what sort of shenanigans will be dreamed up in a national program where it'll be impossible to oversee them all.

I like Warren's childcare proposal, but still don't like her as a candidate.

Think right now I have it:

1. Yang
2. Gillibrand
3. Kamala

2 months old now but this talking point is endlessly repeated. Bernie is very well liked by black ppl, and won u30 black people against hillary. Hillary heavily outperformed him overall due to older black people loving the Clintons and black women overwhelmingly backing her.



Similarly, lol @ thinking Cory Booker has any sort of chance at all. 538 has been running some especially garbage articles on each candidates "path," and the one on Booker was basically "Booker depends on winning black voters who will vote for him because he is black." Just some hilariously bad neolib identity politics thinking right there. Booker might be the whitest mainstream candidate so far.

Agree with all of this, although I think Biden is at this point 50/50 to spectacularly collapse early on in the campaign.