How many times does the centrist dem candidate have to lose the election as a betting favorite before you give up this premise?

Because we're going on 3 in a row now (2000, 2004, 2016). Moderate dems are the Jean van de Velde of presidential politics.

To be fair to Beto, all three of those candidates were absolute charisma vacuums, whereas he is not.

So I've never really heard a Beto speech, just some media clips/debate clips when he ran. Just listened to a few minutes of one. My god, if someone wrote a speech specifically designed to go for the mythical moderate Republican voter, it would be a Beto speech. ****.

Uhhh yeah, lots of people have been talking about Russia as a top threat to US interests since well before the election and continue to talk about their electronic warfare capabilities that extend just a bit beyond troll farms today. I know you're just a script monkey but I'd expect someone who works in tech would at least understand the implications of Russia holding a former NSA contractor for the past 6 years.

Mayor Pete getting some traction in my extended family Dem political discussion after some town hall he did against/with Kamala?

Kamala was the early favorite. Think she is fading already.

Enjoyed this chart

Trollys charts are great.

this is p good too

Uncle Joe

I think Beto is going to take the wind out of his sails unfortunately. On the surface they cross over a lot as they are both young, upbeat, and well spoken but Beto is coming in with a huge head start. And that sucks because I feel like both have a good chance of having moderates like them while Buttigieg is low key progressive.

I hope he is still being talked about when my campaign t shirt ships in 3 weeks.

UsedToBeGood's post is dead on, but I will say personally what turns me off about Beto is that he's not angry about what's going on. He should be angry. A far right judiciary is striving to destroy workers' power and the rights of minorities. Republicans installed through a massive, coordinated fraud one of the stupidest, most corrupt figures in modern American politics. This is a man who just proposed a trillion dollars in cuts to social programs literally to pay for a tax break to corporations and the 1%. He instituted a Muslim ban, and it was certified by a Supreme Court majority that his party stole. He promotes authoritarians around the world and shows a complete disregard for human rights. He threw kids in cages and said there were "very fine" Nazis. On and on. If you're not visibly disgusted by that, I don't trust you to represent my values.

If these "moderate" Republicans just stay home instead of vote for Trump and the Democrat base turns out it is a landslide. The #1 risk for Dems (other than actual election fraud and hacking) is their base staying home, not failing to win over moderates. If these "moderates" will vote for Trump over a competent Democrat they aren't really moderate at all. Honestly if Dems can't win with a liberal agenda after the last 4 years of this **** show they should still try because another 4 years of trump will sink the country enough that the electorate will never forget.

This did not work for Stacey Abrams in GA.

I don't know whether Abrams emphasized healthcare, but saying something "didn't work" for her seems suspect considering she performed awesome compared with a generic Dem and probably would have won without the extreme riggage perpetrated by Kemp and the Republicans.

great post. this should be bumped any time someone mentions thinking about voting for this useless, insipid nothing of a person

To be fair Beto is like a 6 while Trudeau is a 9.5

Yes it did?

NOPE

I would think of it the other way around- Beto is an early leader due solely to name recognition. If Mayor Pete is to get traction then peeling off Beto supporters would be one possible path.

Jesus, that line with "write that poem" on it.. projectile vomited reading that. The more I read or hear Beto the worse it gets.

I watched a bit of the Iowa town hall and he answered almost every question with vague platitudes.

"What do you think about the GND?"

"Climate change is real and we need to do something about it."

I assume at some point he will come up with specific policies. But he is very charismatic. He will be a legit top tier candidate once he gets more substanace to his candidacy.

God that whole snippet is just ****ing awful

lolololol at equating "getting stuff done" with moderates.

obamacare was a republican plan and got literally zero votes from republicans bro. that was ten years ago.

lol, what is a "script monkey"?

But anyway, if you knew anything about tech, you'd perhaps have paid attention to Snowden when he talks about the technical precautions he took when traveling. And if you knew anything about making good arguments, perhaps you'd have something more convincing than saying "but he's...there" and waving your hands hoping magic dust will appear.

Are you going to respond to others' posts expressing similar disbelief at your idiocy, or take your ball and go home? And did you find those contemporary taeks you were touting before?

Update on SCHULTZ 2020: Neighbors and the city question Schultz's characterization of his upbringing as "rags to riches"