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Originally Posted by ChrisV
No there aren't. DSA membership is three orders of magnitude less than Democratic Party membership, despite the upswing after 2016. It already came out that the DNC was completely in the tank for Clinton in 2016, you already know they will do whatever is in their power to avoid Bernie getting the nomination, and here everyone is back for another go. Look at what happened on the Right, with the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus primarying everyone and then eventually Trumpism. It happens within the major parties because that's the only game in town.
If it was a total rat****ing, like he got over 50% and somehow got shafted out of it, then sure. In the situation I outlined, it would just be that Biden endorses Harris and releases his delegates to vote for her.
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Also I can't find the figures but I would be pretty suspicious of the leverage of the socialist left in terms of where they are geographically located. I did find an article from Portland DSA when DSA hit 50,000 members saying that the Portland chapter had over 1,000 members. This is about twice as many as you would expect in the entire state of Oregon if members were evenly distributed across America. I'm not sure the Dems are quaking in their boots at the prospect of losing votes in like California and the Pacific Northwest. Remember that they all have think tanks and **** telling them that going "too far left" will earn them another McGovern, these are the ideas they're working off when assessing what will cause them electoral damage.
Democrats in Presidential elections are already highly vulnerable to left 3rd party candidates, and Gore lost "because of" one. We can quibble over people "permanently" leaving the party, but if the 40-30-30 scenario played out they'd have to win a nailbiter at best and would be in a lot of trouble short term. And obviously if Bernie runs 3rd party they definitely lose.
DSA membership isn't particularly relevant here; 40% of the base would feel disenfranchised, and a big enough % of them would be pissed enough that it would matter.
I also don't think people would be able to use their logic brains to distinguish the 51-25-24 case from the 45-30-25 case, if you're willing to cede the 51 case.