Bernie's the only candidate that can join the dems young vote, corporate vote & progressive vote, imo, surly no dems are flipping to T.... If bernie dose not run, who else from the progressive movement is there?

If you’re placing your hopes in the basket of young voters - this is a bad place to put them. The 30-50 year old block of moderate voters would be far more impactful in swinging a close election. I believe trump is bigly losing ground with moderates.

An appeal to moderates you say?

If youth turnout is low, there will not be a close election. Edit - it won't be close if youth turnout is high either.

no way OC (particularly CA48) flips without a large number of moderate votes. This play is basically exactly what happened, and it was a blowout in a +20 R district

Early 20's, underemployed, and nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is.

Okay, but then what is considered too extreme for these voters? Is Sherrod Brown too extreme? Bernie? Beto? We’re starting to go down the appeal to everyone please no one rabbit hole.

Democratic stances are popular on an issue-by-issue basis. I want someone to unapologetically stand behind them.

I'm thinking:

- early to mid 30s
- his former account was banned for racism
- his former account had 100+ posts in P7/8.8

Two things:

1. He's a state senator from West Virginia.

2. He fell for Trump in 2016. You really want THAT mind running the country?

I mean, seriously, how is there even legitimate discussion of Ojeda for POTUS in this thread?????

And, as for the arguing over playing to the middle... That just gets all the facepalms in the world. Let's just run Kasich/Romney as Democrats and be done with it then. That'd be a fun way to punt Trump another term and secure the downfall of our democracy.

In the absence of an ~ideal candidate running the type of true left campaign most itt would like to see, isn't it best just to back whomever is the biggest favourite over Trump?

It's going to be Kamala Harris and it's not even close. Democratic primaries get won by whoever can motivate non-white voters and left-wingers, and she does both. Plus she's well-funded, well-connected, and understands how to work the media. She might have a slow start in Iowa and will likely lose NH, but could well wrap everything up after SC and California.

gtfo with Ojeda and Avenatti.

Kamala is ok, but does not motivate the left-wingers and probably not the non-white voters either. If you want a non-white woman who will motivate left wingers try the best person in congress: Barbara Lee.

Let's see what the best and brightest of the establishment have in mind for our next Democratic candidate. Hopefully a refreshing progressive voice!

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...tial-prospects

Oh.

Sadly, in this country, I do not think a woman ever wins the presidency.

I think most people would have thought a white woman more likely than a Black man before Obama.

I guess we'll never find out now, but dude's language seems like an oldster, hard to imagine young people today talking about current political trends carrying on for 100 years, also his posts read like he's fat-fingering the **** out of his phone's autocomplete

He's the evolutionary Bernie Sanders. At this point he isn't any less viable than Bernie Sanders was perceived to be when Bernie announced. He improves on Bernie in far more ways than he is worse.

I don't think he's at all likely to win, but if he similar to Trump uses the disdain of liberal media elites towards his combative tactics and rhetoric to procure a ton of free media exposure... then maybe.

No one who supported Trump should be the Democratic nominee. It is absolutely disqualifying.

I will forgive a Trump voter who now regrets his vote; I will not accept one as the voice of the opposition.

Ojeda seems like a clown. Would be good in debates though.

Speaking of regretful Trump voters, let’s get George Conway in the Democratic primary field for maximum entertainment value.

I haven't paid attention to Ojeda even a little bit, but + a million. No way in hell anyone who supported Trump for a second should be nominated. Really having anything to do with a scumbag like Trump ever is a pretty bad stain and it was obvious he was a scumbag way before 2015.

I'm not voting for anyone in the Dem primary who voted for Trump. He can run for Senate in West Virginia, that's it as far as I'm concerned.

Point blank, falling for Trump in 2016 is absolutely, unequivocally disqualifying to be the Democratic nominee in 2020. It speaks to his decision making and judgment. Ojeda is unfit to be the Democratic nominee for president.

Seriously, if anyone ever sat through a full episode of The Apprentice they are disqualified.

The best part about democratic parties is that we finally get some action on the forum. Most of the time is just 95% agreeing that Trump is bad.

I’m not going to convince anyone who is opposed to Ojeda to think differently about him and I really don’t care to, but I hope he gets enough traction to make it to the Democratic debates. He’ll definitely stick out amongst the pack. He does not give a ****. He gave his cellphone number out and personally responded to calls and texts. You know where he stands on issues and does not pussy foot around. He took $0 in PAC money and hustled like a son of a *****.

I grew up in a union household and he is the only candidate I believe has the instincts to go hard as **** for labor with no apologies. I could see him going down to the Senate floor to headlock McConnell if necessary. You guys say you want a fighter, but then purity test them out of the equation.

Can’t wait to see the eventual fawning over Gilibrand. I’ll support whoever makes it through the primary, but lol at hissy fits already.