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03-14-2012 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I mean, when we rely only on your imagination, you can imagine that there's all manner of economic tragedy occurring. However, it seems like a dubious estimate that there are 9 people who would forgo going into business because of regulations that, on average, would affect 0.3% of their revenue for every one person who did go into business.
Aren't you the one who keeps using your imagination to come up with numbers to make your argument. "..dubious estimate that there are 9 people who would forgo..." If GDP growth is .3% less because of regulations there is no need to imagine anything; .3% less growth means it is happening.

I'm not even arguing whether increased regulations have or haven't caused 15% less growth for the economy. You aren't either; your just throwing out strawman arguments.
03-14-2012 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Rick Santorum: "English, mother****er! Do you speak it?!"



Keep ****in' that chicken, buddy, but just a tip. Trying to win a share of 20 delegates from a Spanish speaking place is not the time to start going on English-only rants. Oh, and...



http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...82D16Z20120314

This GOP primary is like a contest about who can be the most exclusionary towards non-whites and women.
I think its a good play for Santorum. No one cares about Puerto Rico's vote, but it is free press, especially conservative press. Romney and Gingrich have both tacked to his right on immigration and he needs a news cycle to build on last night. I guess he he thinks Illinois will prove to have an anti-latin R electorate.
03-14-2012 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Very few people who aren't satisfied with 2% growth would be satisfied with 2.3%. E.g.,



http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...137661942.html
What does "being satisfied" have to do with anything. 2.3% growth is better than 2%. 4% would be even better. 6 or 7% would be better than that.

Why not make your argument based on what the other person actually said. Hopefully, you didn't end up with 50k posts making up arguments for your opponents then knocking them down. Strawman arguments are bad enough but when the person making them is off on the underlying analysis used to knock down the made up argument it is infuriating.

Get me out of here.
03-14-2012 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by henway
Aren't you the one who keeps using your imagination to come up with numbers to make your argument. "..dubious estimate that there are 9 people who would forgo..." If GDP growth is .3% less because of regulations there is no need to imagine anything; .3% less growth means it is happening.

I'm not even arguing whether increased regulations have or haven't caused 15% less growth for the economy. You aren't either; your just throwing out strawman arguments.
I don't think you understand my claim. 0.3% less growth is not a crippling blow to the economy, it's small compared to the total GDP. If these regulations are the reason why the economy isn't "better," then their cost should compare to accepted standards of what people think the growth rate should be. They target 4%. Repealing every last one of these regulations is not going to have an appreciable effect on the GDP because their cost is so low. And some of those regulations may indeed be money well spent.
03-14-2012 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by henway
What does "being satisfied" have to do with anything. 2.3% growth is better than 2%. 4% would be even better. 6 or 7% would be better than that.

Why not make your argument based on what the other person actually said. Hopefully, you didn't end up with 50k posts making up arguments for your opponents then knocking them down. Strawman arguments are bad enough but when the person making them is off on the underlying analysis used to knock down the made up argument it is infuriating.

Get me out of here.
Sorry pal but welcome to the Guantanamo Bay of 2+2.
03-14-2012 , 05:44 PM
Looking forward to Romney's "a lot of my friends own Puerto Rican housekeepers" speech.
03-14-2012 , 05:48 PM
really dont matter who gets the republican nomination. id rather it not be Romney, but im voting for them in Nov regardless of who it is.

obamas energy secretary (and obama himself but wont admit it) wants $9 a gallon gas, and obamas destroyed so many millions of oil jobs )
03-14-2012 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
really dont matter who gets the republican nomination. id rather it not be Romney, but im voting for them in Nov regardless of who it is.

obamas energy secretary (and obama himself but wont admit it) wants $9 a gallon gas, and obamas destroyed so many millions of oil jobs )
lol. Did people on the left really say things this stupid about Bush?
03-14-2012 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
lol. Did people on the left really say things this stupid about Bush?
if you get the constant flow of chain emails that some on this forum do, you can be assured that they believe people on the left say things that stupid
03-14-2012 , 06:30 PM
KXL was 10 million jobs alone.
03-14-2012 , 06:32 PM
I feel like they were maybe as stupid in terms of thought process, but closer to reality in terms of the accusations? If you're on the left it was easy to find slightly valid issues with a right wing president.

If you're on the right and dealing with a president that is rather centrist/some lefties might even say right wing-ish you've gotta find some weird ass **** to keep your mad levels elevated.
03-14-2012 , 06:38 PM
I mean, "Bush lied, people died" isn't exactly high intellectualism, but it's pretty easy to think that Bush lied about Iraq WMD, and people did die. But Obama wants $9/gal gas? I mean, even the the most simple person would agree that Obama wants to get re-elected, and more expensive gas would be detrimental to his chances.
03-14-2012 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rjoefish
03-14-2012 , 07:15 PM
You're welcome Rick
03-14-2012 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I mean, "Bush lied, people died" isn't exactly high intellectualism, but it's pretty easy to think that Bush lied about Iraq WMD, and people did die. But Obama wants $9/gal gas? I mean, even the the most simple person would agree that Obama wants to get re-elected, and more expensive gas would be detrimental to his chances.
Is my man losing his semantic fastball?

Obama wants BOTH...
Higher energy prices and re-election...
And he's gambling people are too stupid to notice.

Will Americans buy arguments that would be ridiculed in a schoolyard?

Like we can't do ANYTHING...
Because results would take years to show up...
So let's just keep doing nothing about domestic US energy...
While we flog the Dead Green Horse.

Obama energy will "necessarily skyrocket":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

Chou has made many similar statements...
A man, by the ****ing way, who does not own a car.
(Does the Secretary of Housing own a house?)
(Has the Secretary of Agriculture ever been on a farm?)

Inflation adjusted, gas prices = Jimmy Carter gas prices...
A level which renders the President 100% toast...
Gasoline is not like rubbers, it's political kryptonite.

03-14-2012 , 10:54 PM
This is an excellent redmanplus poast, i enjoyed it thoroughly

DOES the SEC STATE not visit other states?!1
03-14-2012 , 11:05 PM
Damn, that was an epic Redman post.
03-15-2012 , 01:15 AM
That YouTube video has nothing to do with gas prices, but I'm sure you know that.
03-15-2012 , 08:26 AM
I hate big government activists that want to change the Constitution to add rules

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ants-statehood
03-15-2012 , 02:07 PM
Santorum pushing for English as the official language... in Puerto Rico

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...03662bd66892bd

brilliant imo
03-15-2012 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Rick Santorum: "English, mother****er! Do you speak it?!"



Keep ****in' that chicken, buddy, but just a tip. Trying to win a share of 20 delegates from a Spanish speaking place is not the time to start going on English-only rants. Oh, and...



http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...82D16Z20120314

This GOP primary is like a contest about who can be the most exclusionary towards non-whites and women.
Hey guize, did you hear that Santorum is pushing for English in Puerto Rico? Also, Nate Silver thinks there's something fishy on Intrade.
03-15-2012 , 04:10 PM
Man, this thread really needs some JiggsCasey
03-15-2012 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
if you get the constant flow of chain emails that some on this forum do, you can be assured that they believe people on the left say things that stupid
I was talking about this to someone the other day... Do any of you get chainmails from the left? I have seen endless chain mails by the right (sent to me by my brother or sister-in-law's father-in-law) but I don't really get any chainmails from the left. Is it just me or is it just not as pervasive?

      
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