Let me guess. Someone who makes 33k gets a 330k medical bill. But they don't declare bankruptcy, so nobody's dime goes missing. Sure.

Pretty sure only the most partisan believe that Gingrich is not vastly superior than Obama at the debates. He has gone from an afterthought to the leader in the Republican party primaries on this strength alone. I really think you off target here Phil but I am biased too.

I don't remember Obama being 'world class' at debates at all.

Phil in an alternate universe right now.

Ive not watched that thing he did with Cain. But he vaulted to the lead by:

1, not being Romney
2, everyone else being terrible
3, having name recognition
4, saying a bunch of snarky **** that only appeals to the GOP base

Do you know his major policies? Any policies? Is that a strength in itself at this point?

If he can rise that quickly he can fall just as quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1-jasxb7NY

The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.

I guess it's only mooching off others when you get the govt to pay for something. If the hospital has to eat your bill, and passes the costs off on the people who can pay, that's just business. Or something.

What is so impressive about Newt's debating? He says a lot of stupid stuff.
Its revealing whenever someone insults Obama like this though. The "former UChicago law prof is dumb, just reads off teleprompter" crap.

(of course, newt is no slouch either)

(er ... he IS a slouch but not at debating)

Exactly that. Its crazy to think people dont see that these costs are always born by everyone. For the negatives of socialised healthcare at least it moves the hidden mechanisms onto the books so people can see it instead of it going through multiple layers of insurance all taking a cut of profit to end up as a hidden bill in the pocket of everyone else who is paying for healthcare.

America cant even sell houses to people without it going tits up and imploding the world economy, the idea people can not have insurance and get care which has costs as large as a house is clearly illogical.

I never said he was dumb nor insulted him in anyway. He may be the best I have ever seen at delivering prepared remarks. As I recall Hillary was thought to have won the debates in '08. I know Hillary's campaign pushed for more debates that Obama refused.
I don't really like Gingrich and would much prefer Romney.

Obama did well in scripted speeches in teh 2008 campaign, not debates.

campaigning 101

Thanks Ikes, I really don't think this view is particularly partisan and pretty well accepted by the pundits.

Phil,

LOL!

You picked three issues in which you think Omaba has an edge because he AGREES with Newt. OK.

Obamacare isn't liked by the people. By simply saying that he wants to have a nation conversation and listen to the veiws of everybody before passing the bill that replaces Obamacare is a winner with non-political/moderate voters. "Lets get this right" is a nice slogan.

What oil producing states support Obama? They don't. Newt won't let Obama take credit for Bush exploritory permits. Kestone pipeline, solar deals...........ect

If Newts immigration policy gets through the primaries, he gets 75% from the non-political/independant voter on this. Allowing some people stay with a red card instead of full citizenship is the only fair and practical way. Obama files law suits against States that want to help the feds seal the border.

You see, on these issues Newts position is more in line with the middle of the country than Obamas. Its a no win for Obama.

A side note that is huge:
Newt is willing to addmit he was wrong on some things and that his thought process has matured. I can't think of anything where Obama will say he was wrong, He refuses. He is the only guy in country that thinks everything he has done is right. The more he tries to point out a change in Newts position, the more it will become clear who the adult in the room is.

Saying that Gingrich is "vastly superior" to Obama at debating according to all but the most partisan is an insult to Obama and his intelligence. The implication is that Obama is stupid.

I completely agree, a vote for Newt is a vote for America. We need someone like him to clean up Washington. Only Newt is genuine enough to do this. The media try and slander him as an insider but they forget that he is NO LONGER taking $$ to subvert the democratic process. He has stopped doing this. Bias against who they fear is so obv.

Whatever dude. I think Romney is much smarter than Newt but Newt is the much better debater. In your mind debating skills may equal some proxy for intelligence but not mine.

Push your strength and the opponents weakness=campaigning 101? If so we agree.

Obama did pretty well when he showed up at the Republicans' own event a year or so ago (I forget what the event was) and hammered them on health care. By the time he debates Newt he'll have 3+ years of dealing with all their talking point/Frank Luntz bull**** doublespeak by the ton from working with congress. I like his chances vs. Newt.

I honestly can't say anything about Newt v Obama because I refuse to watch the brain **** that is a typical republican primary debate, but Obama simply wasn't world class in 2008

Yeah he did pretty sweet when he had a bully pulpit! W00t just like a real debate when the other guy can't respond!

Bully pulpit at the republicans' own event? Wasn't there plenty of back and forth? Do you even know what I'm talking about?

Newt is not going to win, people are going to realize he cheats on everything his wife and the people. In fact he probably hired Cain to distract from his sex life. It is Romney and Paul. Despite how controlled the media is. 1/2 the candidates up there are just pawns, used to pick the candidate big government likes.

Yes, obama was the one on stage with a microphone. That's not a debate dude. HRC was clearly better and he was slightly better than McCain. He's not world class.