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Who Will Be the 2012 Republican Presidential Nominee? Who Will Be the 2012 Republican Presidential Nominee?

11-14-2011 , 08:15 PM
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We must draft, nominate and elect Sarah Palin president in the most crushing tidal wave of enthusiastic good judgment ever seen in the history of this nation. With that one bold move we will accomplish the dual goals of seeing America led by the greatest natural born leader in our generation, even as we witness the final implosion and last agonized shrieks of our endlessly lying extreme left loonies. Their entire movement, from the fabricated attacks on Bush beginning with ‘Blood For Oil’ to the crammed-down-our-gullets lies of Obamacare and the Shovel Ready Stimulus, have been nothing but one vile deceit heaped upon another. Such an absolute inability to deal in the truth or to face the facts of our situation and its solutions only proves that there is simply no place at the grown-ups’ table for these diseased sputa. Good riddance to rubes and bad rubbish. Time to usher in the American Renaissance, carried in on the invigoratingly freshening breeze of President Sarah Palin.
I say level, the spelling and grammar are too correct for a Palin fan.
11-14-2011 , 08:17 PM
AstroTurf perhaps?
11-14-2011 , 08:18 PM
It definitely adheres to Poe's law either way.
11-14-2011 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
I say level, the spelling and grammar are too correct for a Palin fan.
Or Palin herself.
11-14-2011 , 10:22 PM
Cain on the Libya crisis is almost as bad as Perry and his SC teen queen moment. So stupid and on a national stage.
11-14-2011 , 10:27 PM
Cain gotta be a liberal plant.

Jesus, this can't be real life. In America. In 2011.
11-14-2011 , 10:30 PM
Cain on Libya is so good. "No, that's a different one..." lolz.

You know, I'm glad we have someone out there that skips the part where they try hard to pretend they know wtf they are talking about.
11-14-2011 , 10:49 PM
It's just the level of leadership on display from the GOP side, from Congress to who they want to compete for the presidency, is so low. Is it because they all sit around and watch who Simon Cowel thinks is good? Do they miss the days of the carnival barker setting his tent in a vacant lot, then rousing them to see the dog faced boy.

Even the Paulites on this board have to admit he looks like a raving lunatic on the debate platform. And you actual see him a a rational person. To use a Steward (sic), he's the thinnest kid at fat camp.
11-14-2011 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cres
It's just the level of leadership on display from the GOP side, from Congress to who they want to compete for the presidency, is so low. Is it because they all sit around and watch who Simon Cowel thinks is good? Do they miss the days of the carnival barker setting his tent in a vacant lot, then rousing them to see the dog faced boy.

Even the Paulites on this board have to admit he looks like a raving lunatic on the debate platform. And you actual see him a a rational person. To use a Steward (sic), he's the thinnest kid at fat camp.
...no.

But as it doesn't sound like anyone in the GOP primary would ever get your vote anyway, it doesn't much matter if you personally marginalize all of them as bat**** crazy or whatever.
11-14-2011 , 11:01 PM
Current Drudge headline: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...-the-lead.html

Gingrich is also up to 14% on intrade, and Romney is still gaining ground - up to 70.5%. In other words, the market thinks there is an 84.5% chance that either Romney or Gingrich takes the nomination.

Again, I just don't foresee anyone but Romney or Gingrich taking the nomination, and every day this seems to become clearer and clearer to everyone.

I know intrade markets are too thin blah blah blah, but I think it has more predictive value than polling (which it takes into account, along with everything else, which is why it's probably the most valuable predictive tool currently available) in terms of a candidate's chance of getting the nomination. Just my 2 cents.
11-14-2011 , 11:08 PM
I continue to laugh at this republican field and mainstream republicans in general. I hope you guys know you are in for a huge bounce because this is the best you can do at the top of the ticket.
11-14-2011 , 11:35 PM
When I ordered my Newt shirt I was order # 264. I think he will pull off Iowa and take down SC too. The field should thin by this point. It should be one hell of a race from there.

It really could go until my vote counts! Mitt is going to win his share of states and he has the money and ground. This base vs beltway race is going to be interesting.
11-15-2011 , 12:14 AM
Cres,

From a historical perspective, Newts' leadership from minority leader to speaker is pretty darn huge. To compare the political accomplishments of Newt to the sitting Presidents when he was in the senate is laughable. To compare the presidents accomplishments in the private sector to Cain, Rommney or Newt is again, laughable.

To compare the political (and only) accomplishments of the sitting President with Jimmy Carters', well, now you have something close to compare. Jimmy probably wins because he has had some seccess prior to the oval office.
11-15-2011 , 12:17 AM
Newt was the guy who started the crippling polarization and lack of any kind of cooperation we see in the House today. So that'll be sweet to have in the white house.

Also lol Cain. It's hilarious for Republicans who pretended like Obama was some great threat to this nation but were more than willing to nominate a man who didn't even know China has nukes.
11-15-2011 , 12:25 AM
suzzer,

Until the contract with America, the house was ruled for 40 years by the Dems that did what they wanted because they owned the place. There was no need for cooperation.

If you would be so kind to tell me of the great cooperation that speaker Nancy showed from 2007-2010, working with Republicans, I would love to have a read.
11-15-2011 , 12:27 AM
I ask once again....why isn't Paul Ryan running?

He would win the nomination EASILY....I mean LOLLZZZZZZZZZZZZ HERM CAIN and his urge to touch non-consenting women is leading the polls still at this point...LOL GOP
11-15-2011 , 12:32 AM
Is there a reason that people who think that there is one noble party and one awful party aren't ashamed about stealing oxygen?

This "us vs. them" mentality like people should root for Team Republican or Team Democrat and defend their team viciously like it's a ****ing high stakes football game is so cancerous.
11-15-2011 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Is there a reason that people who think that there is one noble party and one awful party aren't ashamed about stealing oxygen?

This "us vs. them" mentality like people should root for Team Republican or Team Democrat and defend their team viciously like it's a ****ing high stakes football game is so cancerous.
+1000000000
11-15-2011 , 12:39 AM
Ryan is a little young. It is reasonable to assume that he wants to increase his power in the house and work on his primary issue. A run and a lose diminishes his position a bit.
I beleive he really wants to be the budget hammer right now. I don't think he would trade his spot with a senate seat. I don't think he wants the VP either. He may give it a go in four or eight years.
11-15-2011 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by peetar69
suzzer,

Until the contract with America, the house was ruled for 40 years by the Dems that did what they wanted because they owned the place. There was no need for cooperation.

If you would be so kind to tell me of the great cooperation that speaker Nancy showed from 2007-2010, working with Republicans, I would love to have a read.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/06/op...-moderate.html

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The reason is that Cooper is the House’s conscience, a lonely voice for civility in this ugly era. He remembers when compromise was not a dirty word and politicians put country ahead of party. And he’s not afraid to talk about it. “We’ve gone from Brigadoon to Lord of the Flies,” he likes to say.

I first heard him lament the state of Congress during one of those “get Elizabeth Warren” hearings held earlier this year. When it was Cooper’s turn to question her, he turned instead to the Republicans. “This Congress is viewed as dysfunctional,” he said, “and this alleged hearing is one of the reasons why. It too easily degenerates into a partisan food fight.” He pleaded with the junior members to change their mean-spirited ways before they became ingrained.

With Congress back in session this week — and the mean-spirited wrangling about to begin anew — I thought it would be useful to ask Cooper how Congress became so dysfunctional. His answer surprised me. He said almost nothing about the Tea Party. Instead, he focused on the internal dynamics of Congress itself.

To Cooper, the true villain is not the Tea Party; it’s Newt Gingrich. In the 1980s, when Tip O’Neill was speaker of the House, “Congress was functional,” Cooper told me. “Committees worked. Tip saw his role as speaker of the whole House, not just the Democrats.”

Gingrich was a new kind of speaker: deeply partisan and startlingly power-hungry. “His first move was to get rid of the Democratic Study Group, which analyzed bills, and which was so trusted that Republicans as well as Democrats relied on it,” Cooper recalled. “This was his way of preventing us from knowing what we were voting on. Today,” he added, “the ignorance around here is staggering. Nobody has any idea what they’re voting on.”

In the O’Neill era, when an important issue was being debated, there were often several legislative alternatives. But, under Gingrich, “that was eliminated in favor of one partisan bill,” said Cooper.
That continued after the Democrats retook the House in 2006. “We no longer search for the best ideas or the best policies,” he said. “There was only one health care bill offered. One Dodd-Frank. Now you are either an ally or a traitor.”

Cooper was rolling now. “The real problem with big issues like Medicare is that both parties have to be brave at the same time,” he said. “Every pollster will tell you not to do that to get partisan advantage. Too many people here are willing to deliberately harm the country for partisan gain. That is borderline treason.

“This is not a collegial body anymore,” he said. “It is more like gang behavior. Members walk into the chamber full of hatred. They believe the worst lies about the other side. Two senators stopped by my office just a few hours ago. Why? They had a plot to nail somebody on the other side. That’s what Congress has come to.”
Lol at the idea of Pelosi working with republicans when the republicans simply refused to play ball on every major issue. Or I guess your idea of negotiating is to just kill any idea the republicans don't like.
11-15-2011 , 12:40 AM
Since Newt is surging, and we've talked a lot about him on here recently, I have a question people who might vote for him should ask themselves.

If socialism is as bad he says, and he is so smart, and as capable as he claims to be, why doesn't he understand the fundamental ways to combat it?

Either he doesn't understand what socialism is or he has no desire to beat it back.
11-15-2011 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by agdci981
I ask once again....why isn't Paul Ryan running?

He would win the nomination EASILY....I mean LOLLZZZZZZZZZZZZ HERM CAIN and his urge to touch non-consenting women is leading the polls still at this point...LOL GOP
He's an establishment Republican whose time hasn't come yet. What exactly do you like about him so much? He doesn't have Romney's liberal record from Massachusetts or Gingrich's personal issues, but he's not as good a speaker and debater as either of them. I don't think he's a better candidate than either of them. No one as young as him is going to be approved by the GOP establishment to run, and he backs the party through and through.
11-15-2011 , 12:57 AM
suzzer is unintentionally hilarious.

I hate the polarization of politics in america today.... god damn that newt for starting it!

classic.
11-15-2011 , 12:57 AM
ikesbot nonsense reply™! Someone had to start it. if I punch you in the face and we get in a fight are we both equally culpable?
11-15-2011 , 12:59 AM
Also, the whole 'i hate politics being mean' stuff is dumb because:

a) Politics being mean is normal, not the other way around
b) When politicians come together you get things like TARP, PATRIOT, Stimulus, Auto bailout, etc, etc, etc. **** cooperation, bring on deadlock.

      
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