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11-11-2011 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NMcNasty
Dunno if its the way they wanted but the Republicans are truly putting on a show. Gingrich making a run now?

Its like the Republicans are cycling through their candidates by process of elimination.
Musical Choads
11-11-2011 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
Damn everyone is so fast in this thread.
My sister was undergrad econ student at Yale and had classes with said professor. He predicted housing bubble back then (it was like 2002 or 2003 I believe) she also said there was bunch of articles in Economist about it. People knew back then at least @ Yale.
Also here is Krugman predicting housing bubble:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo4ExWEAl_k

Why public reception was how it was maybe you should blame gov administration back then ?
If it was as obvious as you say, and everyone saw it coming (hindsight ftw), then it's even more damning for Bernanke, as he denied a housing bubble right up until the collapse.
11-11-2011 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
Funny captions, anyone?


Hey, who cropped out those two?

11-11-2011 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ErikTheDread
Hey, who cropped out those two?
The comedic possibilities seemed greater without them.

What I can't figure out is, you can see the wall right through his arm, which seems to indicate the original photo is altered in some way (as posted on Drudge). I guess he is just holding his right arm sharply behind his back for some reason but it looks strange.

Last edited by spadebidder; 11-11-2011 at 03:13 PM.
11-11-2011 , 03:10 PM
That hair. I just don't
11-11-2011 , 03:12 PM
Herman Cain - wooing trailer trash in onesies and twosies
11-11-2011 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
Funny captions, anyone?


Cain: I am Indiana Jones for Halloween, and the broad on my left is MEDUSA
11-11-2011 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
The comedic possibilities seemed greater without them.

What I can't figure out is, you can see the wall right through his arm, which seems to indicate the original photo is altered in some way (as posted on Drudge). I guess he is just holding his right arm sharply behind his back for some reason but it looks strange.
It's not shopped and you know why also. His arm is just to his side/behind his back.
11-11-2011 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FourFins
It's not shopped and you know why also. His arm is just to his side with his hand on that woman's butt.
fyp
11-11-2011 , 05:32 PM
just goosin' her a bit! gotta make sure she smiles for the cameras ya know
11-11-2011 , 07:01 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...vote-2170.html

lol @ the difference between the latest Rassmussen and Reuters poll

Betting on the democrats to take the house in '12 seems like FREE MONEY to me as long as it's <$4.0.
11-11-2011 , 07:19 PM
Romney talks vaguely about vouchers for veterans' healthcare.
11-11-2011 , 07:39 PM
Amazingly poor/slanted writing.

Edit
I retract the amazingly part
11-11-2011 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ErikTheDread
Romney talks vaguely about vouchers for veterans' healthcare.
Excellent plan. I think this is the best way to introduce universal health care on a national level.
11-11-2011 , 07:48 PM
11-11-2011 , 07:59 PM
Nope, not serious. Read it wrong.
11-11-2011 , 08:15 PM
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If it was as obvious as you say, and everyone saw it coming (hindsight ftw), then it's even more damning for Bernanke, as he denied a housing bubble right up until the collapse.
I am not going to defend Bernanke.
What I am saying is that it's not true that nobody saw it coming and that blaming in on federal reserve needs to be supported by a lot of evidence as it's not clear if he could have done much to prevent it (at least that's my understanding of the situation which is to be sure not too deep), especially with not much time he had (as he was appointed basically at the beginning of the collapse).

I oppose "something didn't work therefore comeback to stone age must be the remedy" rhetoric used in this thread.
11-11-2011 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
I am not going to defend Bernanke.
What I am saying is that it's not true that nobody saw it coming and that blaming in on federal reserve needs to be supported by a lot of evidence as it's not clear if he could have done much to prevent it (at least that's my understanding of the situation which is to be sure not too deep), especially with not much time he had (as he was appointed basically at the beginning of the collapse).

I oppose "something didn't work therefore comeback to stone age must be the remedy" rhetoric used in this thread.
This was recorded in 2006. Check it out.
11-11-2011 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by soon2bepro
This was recorded in 2006. Check it out.
This guy is brilliant. It's well worth watching the entire hour and 12 minutes. He told the mortgage guys what was going to happen and they laughed at him.

And watch some of his other stuff on youtube after that.

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11-11-2011 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
I am not going to defend Bernanke.
What I am saying is that it's not true that nobody saw it coming and that blaming in on federal reserve needs to be supported by a lot of evidence as it's not clear if he could have done much to prevent it (at least that's my understanding of the situation which is to be sure not too deep), especially with not much time he had (as he was appointed basically at the beginning of the collapse).

I oppose "something didn't work therefore comeback to stone age must be the remedy" rhetoric used in this thread.
Do some research before posting man. Plenty of people predicted it... John Paulson made a mega fortune shorting the market. Other famous ones are Roubini and Whitney. Watch that Peter Schiff video that was posted, as his understanding was certainly among the most nuanced. He lays out what the problems are, why, and what will happen as a result with astonishing accuracy.

Logic is the evidence, that type of outrageous credit expansion would never be possible without ultra loose monetary policy from the Fed.
11-11-2011 , 11:56 PM
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This was recorded in 2006. Check it out.
I fail to see how it relates to my post.
The guy makes some valid observations like problematic shift to service economy, housing bubble. There are many dumb government programs, dumb spending, dumb policies and dumb regulations. How it is an argument to abolish regulations, reduce government and end the fed I still fail to see.
If anything it calls for more strict regulations, heavy spending in areas of economy we want grow (industry, infrastructure, production), reducing free ride of Wall Street, regulate banks etc.
This is what I am talking about, just because something went wrong and is going wrong doesn't mean free for all market and killing as much government as possible is the answer.

There are many economists from both sides who doesn't like what is going on. It's easy to claim "you see what happened therefore I must be right".

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Do some research before posting man. Plenty of people predicted it..
How does it relate to my post at all ? Where did I say that plenty of people didn't predict it ? I said the opposite quoting predictions from like 2002.
I didn't defend FED policy throughout all history, I said Bernanke probably couldn't do much about it as he was appointed at the time bubble was starting to burst.
WTF ?

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11-11-2011 , 11:56 PM
I wrote this last week:

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Originally Posted by Rambler1
I am surprised that Gingrich has made it to third place in the polls, especially given how late this is in the game, and I am much less sure Romney will win than I was a few weeks ago. If Romney does not win, then I think it will be Gingrich who gets the nomination. I don't think Cain or Perry have a legitimate shot, and Gingrich is the only viable non-Romney candidate.

In terms of the debate tonight, I don't see any upside for Cain, but I see a lot of upside for Gingrich. I expect Gingrich's stock to rise in the coming days and weeks, partly off the strength of his showing in the debate tonight, and also because after Cain's inevitable collapse, I think most of Cain's supporters will go to Gingrich instead of Perry or Romney.

Gingrich is by far the best speaker and debater of all the nominees, and he is the best at expressing his ideas. With all the focus on Cain's sexual harrassment problems, I think it helps to sweep Gingrich's past personal problems, which are the only significant obstacle to his nomination, under the rug. I'm not (yet) predicting that Gingrich is going to take the nomination, but I do think his stock is about to rise. According to intrade, Gingrich currently has a 7.7% chance to win the nomination; I think that number will be a good bit higher in a few weeks.
Gingrich currently at 12.2% on intrade.

I stand by everything I said above - Perry and Cain have no shot, it's still between Romney and Gingrich, and that reality is slowly creeping into the mainstream.

Beyond that, I'm not sure which of the two takes it.

Is everyone finally on board with my Romney-Gingrich 2 person race view?

Thoughts?
11-12-2011 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rambler1
Is everyone finally on board with my Romney-Gingrich 2 person race view?

Thoughts?
Mostly, but I guess I need to see Cain's numbers significantly drop before I can count him out entirely. I really thought that drop would have happened by now.
11-12-2011 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Mostly, but I guess I need to see Cain's numbers significantly drop before I can count him out entirely. I really thought that drop would have happened by now.
According to this poll, he went from first to third, behind Gingrich, in about a week: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/1...on-gop-voters/

Do you really think he still has a chance to win the nomination?

Did you ever really think he had a shot? (serious question)
11-12-2011 , 12:15 AM
Even though it seems incoherent, my answer is no to the last question and I don't know to the first one. I keep being really dismissive and the poll numbers keep leaving me asking "WTF?" Eventually a guy has to wonder if the might be wrong.

If he does have a chance though, it's not a good chance.

      
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