Who Will Be the 2012 Republican Presidential Nominee? - Page 332 - Politics and Economics

"I know he went and he's trying to cultivate … Donald Trump, in order to get his endorsement, but this is not the way to go about doing it," Rove said on Fox News. "It starts to marginalize you in the minds of some of the people whom you need in order to get the election."

According to Rove, Perry should have said: "Yes, he [Obama] was born in the United States, yes, he is eligible to serve and don't associate yourself with this nutty fringe group."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ning-to-perry/

Rove obviously just reading what he wants into his links from think progress tho.

10-24-2011 , 03:21 PM

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What thieves??

The thieves who hide their taxable income from the government.

10-24-2011 , 03:27 PM

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Yeah i remember that, by try i meant do, not try as in try and fail to secure a lower political job. Failing to be a Senator is poor evidence you are ready to try to be President.

10-24-2011 , 03:28 PM

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1) Perry is so dumb for real.
2) Anyone making a big deal of that interview is so dumb for real .
3) Anyone perusing right wing blog entry comments to find desperate birthers trying to find any excuse to latch themselves to a mainstream candidate and claim them sympathetic to the birther cause, and then using this as evidence that the candidate is actually sympathetic to the birther cause... is so dumb for real.

I'm as big a Perry basher as anyone, but come on, this is all so dumb for real.

10-24-2011 , 03:43 PM

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I was attacked by some idiot in the projects

10-24-2011 , 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by m_reed05

1) Perry is so dumb for real.
2) Anyone making a big deal of that interview is so dumb for real .
3) Anyone perusing right wing blog entry comments to find desperate birthers trying to find any excuse to latch themselves to a mainstream candidate and claim them sympathetic to the birther cause, and then using this as evidence that the candidate is actually sympathetic to the birther cause... is so dumb for real.

I'm as big a Perry basher as anyone, but come on, this is all so dumb for real.

And that's why Perry answered the way he did.

10-24-2011 , 03:49 PM

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lol based on him saying it's a nonissue? Good grief.

10-24-2011 , 03:50 PM

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I think you have some valid opinions here. I mean, were Hilary in the WH, we'd be having the discussion on if the Rs were really sexist.

They just hate anyone with a D in front of their name. I think maybe Rs just equally have ambivalence towards anyone who isn't rich, and that that group includes many a black person may just be incidental to a degree. That their policies don't aim to help black people may just be an unintended consequence, but it also leads very few black people to want to join the R party, so it's easy to view them as exclusionary. (also, attacks on the civil rights movement, lo over a half decade later, don't help them appear any less racist)

this is essentially it. I'm pretty sure if u came up with a solution that would fix the economy 98% of the time before the next election...a huge chunk of Reps would not support it and argue about the 2% of the time it doesn't work. The catch is that if the Dems were in the Republican's shoes...they would do the exact same thing. Neither side actually cares about helping the middle class, poor people, average joes etc or fixing the economy unless it improves their own interests. They care about getting re-elected, getting more power, and thus getting wealthier long term.

The race issue is much less important except with a small % of the older voters and just pure rednecks of the Rep party. IMO the isn't "proud" of America or patriotic issue is a much much bigger influence with people who hate Obama on the Republican/Indep side of things.

Romney should win unless the UE % suddenly starts shedding points over the last 6 months before the election.

10-24-2011 , 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ikestoys

lol based on him saying it's a nonissue? Good grief.

No, based on him saying he doesn't know if Obama was born here. Also, let's be precise, he was it was a "distractive issue". Since "distractive" is not technically a word, who knows what that means.

10-24-2011 , 04:00 PM

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lol but he doesn't know obama was born in the US. He says he has no reason to believe it's not true, and makes it plainly clear he doesn't care about the issue, so he's a birther!

10-24-2011 , 04:06 PM

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A birther or dumber than a box of rocks or a shameless liar. Pick one.

10-24-2011 , 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ErikTheDread

Either a birther or dumber than a box of rocks or a shameless liar. Pick one.

Just one?

10-24-2011 , 04:08 PM

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ikes why do you think Perry didn't follow Karl Rove's advice and say "Yes, he [Obama] was born in the United States"? Because that's what I'd say if I was asked.

10-24-2011 , 04:09 PM

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Since "distractive" is not technically a word, who knows what that means.

A quick google search appears to reveal that distractive is a word. And even if it isn't, we all know what it means, but then this whole argument is pretty disingenuous, not just that little detail.

10-24-2011 , 04:10 PM

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Why the **** is this ridiculous bull**** an issue? Yes, Obama should be impeached, but not because he's ZOMG NOT AN AMERICAN! He should be impeached because he's a ****ing warring dictator who assassinates American men and children.

10-24-2011 , 04:10 PM

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FFS ikes, you can't keep pretending the middle part of that interview isn't there.

A person who really feels it's a non-issue doesn't use the language Perry did.

It's very much in the in whatever color setting you have on whatever other color setting you have.

10-24-2011 , 04:10 PM

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So, again, people who think Perry went birther:

1) Like every liberal on the internet
2) Karl Rove
3) Birthers(Orly Taitz has endorsed Perry: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...en-orly-taitz/)

People who don't:

1) ikes

10-24-2011 , 04:10 PM

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ikes why do you think Perry didn't follow Karl Rove's advice and say "Yes, he [Obama] was born in the United States"? Because that's what I'd say if I was asked.

Because he's an idiot who is terrible at speaking on the spot. Is it really hard to see, after every single debate performance?

10-24-2011 , 04:13 PM

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imo

10-24-2011 , 04:18 PM

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A birther or dumber than a box of rocks or a shameless liar. Pick one.

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Just one?

Trick question, since birthers are dumber than boxes of rocks.

But I agree that it's challenging figuring out whether Perry actually means half the crazy stuff that comes out of his mouth.

10-24-2011 , 04:19 PM

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So this is what happens when the news gets stale, racism and birther topics of the day, I thought I made a wrong turn and wound up in NVG

10-24-2011 , 04:25 PM

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LirvA

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Hey was it true when Bachmann said Obama has two relatives here that are illegal immigrants?

10-24-2011 , 04:40 PM

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ikestoys

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Originally Posted by Dids

FFS ikes, you can't keep pretending the middle part of that interview isn't there.

Oh the part where he says Obama wasn't born in the US? Or the part where he says he thought Obama was probably not born in the US? Or the part where he gave any sort of opinion leading towards Obama wasn't born here?

Because Perry is nothing but dismissive, starts with he believes Obama and ends with saying he doesn't give two ****s about the issue.

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A person who really feels it's a non-issue doesn't use the language Perry did.

Mind reader imo.

10-24-2011 , 04:42 PM

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ikes why do you think Perry didn't follow Karl Rove's advice and say "Yes, he [Obama] was born in the United States"? Because that's what I'd say if I was asked.

Perry hasn't been able to communicate even the most basic ideas throughout this race. FFS, he's governor of one of the best economies in country and he can't make decent headway into an election that is 100% about unemployment and the economy.

You're basically reading between the lines here when there's nothing there. Which is completely standard for you ofc, but only when dealing with conservatives.