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Who Will Be the 2012 Republican Presidential Nominee? Who Will Be the 2012 Republican Presidential Nominee?

10-21-2011 , 10:46 PM
oooooooops, my bad
10-21-2011 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
There are 2 different wills itt.
lololol this is funny, there are so many threads where people think we're the same person. That's why I have an avatar of a cat.

To the other will : get a dog avatar or something.
10-22-2011 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
lololol this is funny, there are so many threads where people think we're the same person. That's why I have an avatar of a cat.

To the other will : get a dog avatar or something.
I'll use my parrot if I ever get around to uploading a pic of him
10-22-2011 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
lololol this is funny, there are so many threads where people think we're the same person. That's why I have an avatar of a cat.

To the other will : get a dog avatar or something.
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Originally Posted by will1530
I'll use my parrot if I ever get around to uploading a pic of him
As a mod here, let me admit that I thought you two were the same person.
10-22-2011 , 01:07 AM
That's why you should avoid numbers and have a distinctive pseudonym, like "Nichelmn".
10-22-2011 , 01:16 AM
I officially retract anything I ever said about Cain being like Perot.
10-22-2011 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Nichlemn
That's why you should avoid numbers and have a distinctive pseudonym, like "Nichelmn".
I agree.
10-22-2011 , 01:35 AM
Fun fact: Searching my name gets 54 hits, despite the fact I haven't logged in for nearly three years. Accolades include honourable mention for poster of the year in 2008 by ElliotR and MrWookie drunkenly trying to convince TomVeil to ban me in 2010.
10-22-2011 , 01:36 AM
Official prediction:

The election will be close no matter who the R candidate is. Not because he's a good candidate, but because of how terrible and terribly similar both candidates will be in the eyes of the larger public (i.e. the politically uninterested)
10-22-2011 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
As a mod here, let me admit that I thought you two were the same person.
Will, get that parrot picture uploaded damnit.
10-22-2011 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by caseycjc
What's wrong with being for the death penalty except for certain cases? Surely you realize that every convicted murderer doesn't get the death penalty.
You've changed around his point, though, so it makes less or no sense.

Sure, you can be for the death penalty except for certain cases.

I believe he was saying it makes no sense to be (morally) against the death penalty as a punishment for first degree murder, except in certain cases.
10-22-2011 , 03:23 AM
Back to the OP, I have to say that in the final weeks/months of the 2008 campaign between 0bama/McCane, I was 100% convinced that the economy was setting up to absolutely guarantee that whoever won would be a one-term president.

I still pretty much believe, and for the same reason, that Obama will be unable to pull off re-election, but this slate of Republicans is draw-droppingly, hilariously lolbad.

Seriously, the only electable candidate is Romney, and a huge percentage of Repubs can't stand him (which worked out well for McCain).

Now, I do think it will be Romney, and I do think Romney will win, but I can't believe how hard the Republicans are trying to botch a first-and-goal from the 2-yard line.
10-22-2011 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Vecernicek
Back to the OP, I have to say that in the final weeks/months of the 2008 campaign between 0bama/McCane, I was 100% convinced that the economy was setting up to absolutely guarantee that whoever won would be a one-term president.

I still pretty much believe, and for the same reason, that Obama will be unable to pull off re-election, but this slate of Republicans is draw-droppingly, hilariously lolbad.

Seriously, the only electable candidate is Romney, and a huge percentage of Repubs can't stand him (which worked out well for McCain).

Now, I do think it will be Romney, and I do think Romney will win, but I can't believe how hard the Republicans are trying to botch a first-and-goal from the 2-yard line.


I couldn't agree more, there's so much infighting within the Rep party that they can't see past their ridiculous expectations.

He's not conservative enough (WTF does that even mean, who sets the bar and who knows when you've got there.

He's not Christian or if he is does his form of Christianity qualify

His stance on abortion isn't strong enough, heaven forbid you might think in certain cases abortion might be justified.

Then you get the tea party with their set of expectations, who will absolutely flip out if Romney is nominated.

And on and on.......

To steal your football analogy, they remind me of the Miami Dolphins in the
'red zone".

Edit
Sigh ...I'm a diehard Dolphin fan, too
10-22-2011 , 10:28 AM
Perry has sunk so low in the polls that I don't see him coming back at all. Flat tax or not.
10-22-2011 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The 13th 4postle
Perry has sunk so low in the polls that I don't see him coming back at all. Flat tax or not.
I don't know...there is a decent chance Cain implodes due to a huge mistake or fades away due to lack of funds and that 25% could go largely to Perry. It's an uphill battle for sure but he's got alot of money and does not seem like he is beneath playing any card (ala Bush with McCain's adopted daughter in 2000)
10-22-2011 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Vecernicek
I believe he was saying it makes no sense to be (morally) against the death penalty as a punishment for first degree murder, except in certain cases.
Even this seems silly. **** be complex.

Same with abortion. Even if you believe that abortion is killing an innocent life, it's not unreasonable to assume that making a 13 year old rape victim have the child of her rapist is also destroying an innocent life. That's way different then an adult couple that are financially able to care for a child but just don't want to.

I'm not making value judgements either way (at least in this post), but you have to admit that the death penalty and abortion can have some pretty complex moral aspects.
10-22-2011 , 02:29 PM
Yeah, I wasn't really endorsing the analogy, I was just pointing out that he had flipped it around, which (imo) wasn't saying the same thing.

I don't actually think that one can hold a truly consistent position wrt abortion, except for at the most extreme positions.

It's a lot easier to be consistently against the death penalty.
10-22-2011 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Raker
I don't know...there is a decent chance Cain implodes due to a huge mistake or fades away due to lack of funds and that 25% could go largely to Perry. It's an uphill battle for sure but he's got alot of money and does not seem like he is beneath playing any card (ala Bush with McCain's adopted daughter in 2000)
A "Herman Cain has a black daughter" whisper campaign probably won't be as effective against Cain as it was against McCain.
10-22-2011 , 03:30 PM
Herman Cain has a black daughter would be an epic attack advert.
10-22-2011 , 03:47 PM
I think "Hermain Cain has a secret white wife" will perform excellent.
10-22-2011 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Brons
I think "Hermain Cain has a secret white wife" will perform excellent.
That'll put him over the top.
10-23-2011 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by caseycjc
His stance on abortion isn't strong enough, heaven forbid you might think in certain cases abortion might be justified.
Whoa there, sunshine. That kind of pragmatism has NO PLACE in the political process. (Even though something like 90% of the population thinks exactly the same thing)
10-23-2011 , 01:21 AM
lol perry, such an easy campaign to run you ******.
10-23-2011 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
Official prediction:

The election will be close no matter who the R candidate is. Not because he's a good candidate, but because of how terrible and terribly similar both candidates will be in the eyes of the larger public (i.e. the politically uninterested)
I don't think it has much to do with that to be honest, but I agree it will probably be close for a different reason: both candidates will have a lot of "automatic" support and "gimme" States. The election is basically going to come down to Ohio and/or Florida, IF the Republicans win back Virginia and North Carolina (which Obama won in 08), which I think they probably will, unless their candidate turns out to be even more of a dumpster fire than they've all been so far.
10-23-2011 , 01:31 AM
someone in SE stole your avatar ikes and it made me as hell and determined not to take it any more

      
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