The GOP really isn't interested in any moderates at all. And want to see if they can win an election while flpping the bird at America.

This is the type of thinking that helps make my point. No "bat**** wingnut" would be able to pull off the stuff liberals don't like in divided gov't the way Obama can. Imagine Bachman/Perry trying to enact the exact foreign policy Obama implemented and then following it up with an attempt at cutting into the big 3 entitlement programs. A repub wouldn't have a shot at this. Obama implements and the left moans a little and grudgingly accepts so they don't hurt their guys chances of a second term. If the left thinks the first term wasn't ideal just wait for the second.

Only Nixon could go to China.

headasplode

FYP. And I hope your wrong and the Repubs do not run Perry and or Bachmann.

Ron Paul b-day money bomb this Sat. My first donation to a campaign this cycle. I know lots of you guys have been funding him all along, but this is for us late- comers.

From what the article said its not just progressives who are concerned about the environment and trust the EPA.

I'll say that I like a lot of libertarian stuff in principle but I don't think for a second that getting rid of the EPA would be a good thing. I don't think corporate america has a good track record in terms of caring about the environment. They would dump all their pollutants into the national forests and into the great lakes if it would save a buck and they could get away with it.

i'm remembering gobbomom as a liberal? now a libertarian, or just tired of obama?

either way, gj!

Fair enough. And from the right I don't wish to abolish the EPA. I guess a Romney supporter can still say "from the right?"

still a progressive, but switching to vote for Ron Paul in the Il. primary. I'm paying to see an Obama- Paul debate. I'd keep an open mind on who to vote for between them in the unlikely event that happens.

I didn't mean their ideology was similar, I meant their ideology in relation to the norm was similar.

Most of the 'modern' elements of trench warfare (transverse & communication trenches, etc) that made their way into WWI fieldworks were invented by Gen. Longstreet's engineering staff.

THE SOUTH WAS RIGHT AGAIN AMIRITE?

Yes, but had Lincoln not created the environment that allowed Longstreet and his staff to thrive, those innovations wouldn't have happened.

lolllllllllllllll

I'm sure Lincoln created West Point as an engineering school during his infancy so that Longstreet, Lee, and the rest of the Civil War butchers would know how to dig fortifications and adapt to technology and necessity to come up with even better ditches to kill each other from.

From a purely mathematical position, these entitlement programs must be changed. Long-term they are simply unsustainable.

This has nothing to do with politics, but of course most politicians aren't willing to deal with & tell the public the truth, as doing so would interfere with their #1 concern, which of course is getting re-elected.

So they do the easy thing & kick the can down the road.

Like it or not, we are quickly approaching the end of that road, at which point we will have no choice but to face facts.

Obama is fairly meh / sucks...why can't the Republican Party nominate a candidate who isn't godawful.

This * a million

Romney seems pretty good as far as Republican candidates go. Smart, not insane, excellent hair.

Perry's behavior over the past few days has made me doubt if he has the message control to do what I thought.

I still think he's much smarter than people give him credit for, ala GWB, but he's going to have to get his **** together or else one of these lame statements will turn into something that actually hurts him.

electability, yo.

Im fairly liberal and agree that he is not performing to expectations, but to say he sucks is simply not true. He's doing a mediocre job, but given that he has one of the least productive congress in history he's doing fine. The reason that the rep party cant nominate someone decent is because all of them have had to pervert their views on issues in order to gain tea party support and therefore they sound like morons when they try to incorporate christian fundamentalism into their politics. Also Obama is basically center right (or at least the conventional right not the one thats been perverted beyond recognition).

The fact that the right has chosen not to compromise on any issues even when its in their best interest puts them in terrible spots when they have to discuss their platform because they simply have no platform at the current moment other than no tax increases, teach creationism in schools(mainly Perry) and get rid of abortion and social security

anti-embroyonic stem cell research tho

lol least productive congress, he had an all dem congress for 2 years dude. GMAFB.