People here seem to incredibly underestimate the danger of the current American reality tv-show (read : "reality") that holds publicly the power to cause untold danger to humanity, let alone what they have going on privately.

Lol @ movement racing across internet to expose them for all of their obvious lies, crimes and false flags in order to further their greedy agenda. Lets put our intense emotions aside for a moment and ponder this from their perspective, as I believe it is incredibly important with my knowledge of history and human psychology, as well as in-depth research into politics and the history of the government, especially since 9/11.

Their perspective : In power for decades directly from purposely killing untold numbers of humans for profit, both in America and worldwide, its becoming the elephant in the room at explosive speed and the time to act is now. They gaslight the public via the spawn of satan (read : main stream media) that anything they do wrong is "fake news" or a "conspiracy theory". Well played america, seems your constant research into human manipulation since MK-ultra has played out well for you. Too bad you did not account for the information age that is now exposing you. In my opinion we MUST take a counter-intuitive approach in order to get out of this. That approach is to offer all guilty and most evil parts of the government to give up now and if they do we will offer them a free new life and enough money to live comfortably wherever they want, as its unlikely they will want to live in America and have everyone despise them. Not looking at this from their perspective after putting this puzzle together is a major "leak" that could end up killing millions or billions of humans worldwide, perhaps even to extinction levels.

At least for now we have them pretending to be somewhat good. Once exposed (happening at lightning fast pace unless they destroy the internet or do something worse soon) and desperate, combined with most of American slaves (read : citizens) wanting the "evil guilty elites" either dead or jailed for life forever being known as Hitler squared seems like quite the risky plan. The global discussion, in my opinion, needs to realize the importance of this fact if we want to ensure our own survival. We need to be grateful for our current lives, as with these evil incompetent people in power could very well lead us into the worst tyranny in history.

As I believe we are in the most uncertain time in recent history, I believe everyone should prepare for a worst case scenario of Civil war or similar, even if its just by studying how to survive in such a situation if you cannot afford supplies or weapons. This is a no-brainer even if it was 100% true that America was great and in full control, as there are many other scenarios that could easily bring chaos. Hoping for the best, we must prepare for the worst though imho.

LOL you for real? If you studied stats of americans' you'd be way more worried about commuting and bad lifestyle habits, they have a far more likelyhood of killing or messing up your kid then a random shooter. I guess you watch to much tv tho.


Just ciggerattes alone crush shootings and that's just 1 variable of many that can mess you kid up. I don't care about the gun debate, I care that americans are brainwashed on what real everyday threats are.

Just skimming I'll say this, you people watch way to much of the news. Go ahead and pour that toxic mess into your brain, I'm sure it's doing you good.


You all remind me of my mother, and she's terrified of the world while she watches marathons of Law and Order and news. It's kinda cute how you guys let others be the master of your own mind and emotional system but this is the polictics forum so it's probably the biggest venues for such like minded people. Just so you know, psychologists have been employed since the 50s just to keep you glued to that fear nonsense as well as the ads that follow.


I'd say study more science and less BS but it's might be too late for cemented minds.

Congratulations on sorting out all the posters in this thread and the politics forum. That fancy science learning of urn is really paying off on how to interpret samples and stuff. Minor in spontaneous condescension?

You should care about the gun debate. I do, not because I’m under the impression that my kid is likely to get killed by an AR-15 carrying mass shooter in the classroom. I know she will be more likely to get run over in the school parking lot if I want to be worried.

I have understood all along, as someone who has a choice to live here or not, that choosing to stay here means I will be much more exposed to guns and gun violence. It’s part of the deal living in the us. I know several people who have been killed, have had shots fired near my house numerous times, had a gun flashed at me more than once, etc. I have made the decision to not have a gun in my house based on your approved math, and determined that even though I don’t like the exposure or most of the mentality behind the gun obsession here, it was a compromise I was willing to make. A calculated risk that I had some control over based on my own decisions.

But now it is changing. When faced with the issue of rapid fire weapons that do more damage than most being easily accessible to those who would like to harm as many people as they can, the debate turns to arming teachers. ****ing insane. So now because of the stupidity of the pro gun groups and their selfishness, my kids may be forced to be exposed to guns all the time day to day whether I own one or not. That was a decision I could make before. I am far more concerned with them being in a classroom with a gun for their entire school careers than I am about the unlikely event of a school shooting affecting them. Accidents, escalations, misunderstandings, bad judgement, suicide by teacher, unsecured weapons....those are all real threats that are being thrust upon my family because of ****ing stupidity. I mean hooray for teachers and all, but there are plenty of terrible ones—from stupid and incompetent all the way to sexual predator. The teachers at my kid’s school having pistols against a suicidal ar packing kid with a vest is ridic. I wouldn’t be afraid of any of the teachers at her school and would give myself the advantage unarmed if I had the element of surprise. Whatever make believe good will come from this “solution” will be buried by the unintended consequences.

What’s my point? This is the mentality of the public here. This is an actual solution that is being not just discussed, but implemented. Yes you should be concerned with it, at least as concerned with that as you are with people over weighing the chances of being involved in a school shooting. You see it as a way to diminish other people hand wringing, I see it as a sign that the public is ripe for exploitation.

Lol. I stumbled on this after I wrote the post above. Think this teacher and those like her will be the ones packing heat in Florida?

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5...APPLENEWS00001

I agree with this and its something we don't talk about enough.

I think, in the gun debate, I'm way more worried about our collective decision making process than about the loss of life itself. Sure, if I have a kid, odds are overwhelmingly in favor of them never facing an incidence of gun violence in school. But right now it looks like odds are very high they would have to spend years in an institution that thinks its a good idea to give Mrs. Bailey the 71 year old algebra teacher a bonus for carrying a gun to class.

Yes my decision would be based more on the choice to fund things like gun training and bonuses for being armed versus actually paying for education, like they do in other civilized countries.

lol scientologists

Reading about the PA legislature trying to remove state supreme court justices got me thinking about this again.

Without sounding too crazy - what are the realistic options for moving out of the country for an educated, married couple? I'm a lawyer and the wife is a government employee with a doctorate who can probably find a job in private industry. If we wanted to, say, move to Canada - how difficult would it be?

Not difficult at all.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...d-workers.html

Buy property in St. Kitts and Nevis.

Rapidly approaching, though we have an obligation to try and stop internment camps for children before we hightail out.

If you're non-white, this is when you leave.

My work has an office in London that seems like a better and better idea with each passing day

I posted this in the "main thread" but there's so much going on there wrt the insanity of the day that perhaps it fits better here.

This is likely what you can expect if you stick around:

Here's a real disaster scenario that is a non-zero possibility: An American Insurgency

We've got all the building blocks:
-Political radicalization + cult of personality
-Religious fervor
-Lots of weapons in the hands of those people

Trump will never go quietly. A certain percentage of people will never accept the end of his reign. He will never admit he lost the vote in the midterms (knowing it guarantees impeachment) or in 2020. Hell, he lied about the vote even when he won!

This insurgency is easily mobilized - they are well connected by social media. As mentioned, they are NRA members and they have lots of weapons.

Another problem is that liberals and progressives are concentrated in relatively small areas (cities). It's easy to imagine caravans of these hordes converging on our cities in their large SUVs & pickup trucks while heavily armed and causing significant havoc.

Don't think it will happen here? We aren't that special.

Add in a little bit of help from local police departments (hotbeds of white supremacy and heavily armed with military surplus gear) and it gets even scarier.

as much as I love daydreaming about scenarios like that, I’m gonna lol at all that....you don’t think we have military surplus weapons or ammo in the hood?

I mean yeah, if like, ALL of arkansas caravan’d up to youngstown, it might be some ****. short of that, it’s more interesting to think about how the military will split if(/when?) the_don decides he ain’t going quietly...

my gf’s two daughters are asleep, or at least are supposed to be in the next room, and I’d be lying if I said that I haven’t considered what it would mean if the country really went to ****. I have water and food staples in the basement just in case the zombies come, of course I’ve thought about being a mixed family in what would quickly turn into a race/status-based confrontation.

but then, I *know* this area. I *know* that if or when it comes down to it, black or white, D or R, hip hop or country, we just aren’t going to let anyone else tell us how to live or who to love or when it’s time to stick up your neighbor. ❤️

all that said, last week I surprise-took the three of them to the post office and paid for each of them to get a passport. pictures were taken, should be ready by the middle of july. the girls think it’s so we can take them to niagara falls... *shrug*

Lol there's no question which way the mitary goes.

The military is siding with Trump. No question.

I wish people would realize that a good lot of soldiers either enter as killers or become that way if they experience combat for an extended time.

So Trump is right that we have killers. Just not in the way he thinks.

I'm really feeling it today.

I was thinking about this today too

I was thinking about it a couple days ago in the context of the family separation stuff, with the administration responding to the outcry by saying "it's not happening, but if it is it's Democrats' fault" and generally steering that confrontation towards a very dark path, but that seems to be getting better.

It's not getting better or even staying the same. It's just getting worse at a slighly slower rate. There are still separations. These facilities are very secretive. The 2300 kids are still separated and may stay that way. And now they are building internment camps for families.

The economy is doing very well so immigration may well increase. The Trump admin will not abandon terror as a weapon. This will get worse for a while at least.

And this is what a 6 year old looks like in Yemen now and we're in the front row for that.



It's demoralizing.

I guess we can pretend California is our country.