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What's happened in Canada in the past 4 years is worse than what went on in the US What's happened in Canada in the past 4 years is worse than what went on in the US

07-14-2008 , 01:05 AM
A little perspective about human rights and the freedoms we expect in Western civilizations:


Levant to Congress: put Canada on the watch list of human rights abusers

Since then, Canada’s largest news magazine, called Maclean’s – our equivalent to Time magazine – was sued in three different human rights commissions for writing about the demographic growth of Islam in the West. And the Halifax Chronicle-Herald, the largest newspaper in Atlantic Canada, is being pursued by Nova Scotia’s human rights commission for printing an editorial cartoon depicting a local Muslim activist in a niqab – even though that is how she dresses.

In other words, Canadian human rights commissions -- secular government organizations -- are prosecuting religious fatwas. It’s a soft jihad against any criticism of radical Islam. It’s called “lawfare”, and it’s a greater danger to our western values of freedom, religious pluralism and the separation of church and state than the hard jihad of terrorism is. Even if targets like Maclean’s eventually “win”, they lose; the process is the punishment – and the chill affects everyone else.

Canadian human rights commissions, however, are not respectful of the sensitivities of all religions. Less politically correct faiths are regularly prosecuted by them. This May, an Alberta pastor named Stephen Boissoin was given a lifetime gag order, never to say anything critical of homosexuality – not in a church sermon, not even in private e-mails. As well, in what can only be called a Maoist verdict, he has been ordered to renounce his religious beliefs, and to publish a self-denunciation in the local newspaper.

This is Canada we’re talking about. Not Iran, not China, not Cuba.

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At first, these thought crimes were targeted at people so odious, no-one spoke out in their defence. Neo-Nazis mainly – including an 80-year-old man named John Taylor who served 9 months in jail for having an anti-Semitic phone message.

We don’t like anti-Semitism or other bigotry; I certainly don’t. But instead of the traditional answer to offensive speech – more speech, better speech, truer speech – Canada took the easy way, and simply outlawed hurt feelings. Instead of doing the hard work of building a truly tolerant society, we thought we could wave a magic wand, and legislate bad feelings out of existence.

But legal precedents cut both ways. So, after thirty years of prosecuting people who were critical of Jews, now Canada’s human rights commissions are being used by radical Muslims to prosecute people who criticize radical Islam – and being used by gay rights activists to prosecute pastors like Reverend Boissoin, religious newspapers like Catholic Insight, and even the Bishop of Calgary, Fred Henry, for a letter to his diocese against same-sex marriage.

To paraphrase Father Martin Niemoller, first the human rights commissions went for the neo-Nazis, but I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a neo-Nazi. Then the human rights commissions went for the fundamentalist Christians, but I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a fundamentalist Christian.

Because we didn’t fight for freedom of speech and freedom of conscience for people who were hard to like, now we’re having to fight for those fundamental freedoms for ourselves. It’s always better to fight in the first ditch rather than the last one.
07-14-2008 , 01:09 AM
what happens in canada stays in canada
07-14-2008 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by vezzy
Because we didn’t fight for freedom of speech and freedom of conscience for people who were hard to like, now we’re having to fight for those fundamental freedoms for ourselves.
At first I thought it was a job for the ACLU, but they don't work in Canada. So I googled CCLU.

They've got your back (I think -- I don't know how to read Canadian):

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王建民大概在九月之前不可能歸隊。就算他能用最短的八週時間恢復,加上復健比賽也要等到九月初才能回來。九 月中是比較合理的估計,如果 Yankees 在八月的時候競爭無望,王可能會被直接 shut down,今年球季不要求他回來。

王建民過去兩年的 WARP1 都是7.1,如果接下來他都有這樣的水準,Yankees 使用一個 replacement player 大概會少掉三到四勝。不過他受傷的時間點對 Yankees 還算幸運,最近賽程輕鬆,打線的火力又逐漸升溫,而且 Joba Chamberlain 慢慢的成長為一個真正的先發投手,不再受到各種 pitch count 的限制。這段賽程結束後 Ian Kennedy 差不多也該回來了。我對他的期望雖然不深,不過他也不是上 DL 前的成績所顯示的那麼差的投手,他應該要是個稱職的四、五號投手才對。再過一陣子 Phil Hughes 也該回來,這兩個年輕人的能力比他們在球季開始時的表現出來的成績要好,應該可以提供超過 replacement level 的貢獻。換句話說,失去王建民的損失可能只有兩場球左右,或許這個數字還要加一或減一。

Yankees 今年進不進的了季後賽還在未定之天,不過他們沒有需要為了失去王建民而緊張,也不需要在這個時間點犧牲過多 新秀去換 Bedard 或 Sabathia 回來。時間是在他們這一邊的,他們可以等一等再做決定。
07-14-2008 , 01:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy
At first I thought it was a job for the ACLU, but they don't work in Canada. So I googled CCLU.

They've got your back (I think -- I don't know how to read Canadian):
Quote:
王建民大概在九月之前不可能歸隊。就算他能用最短的八週時間恢復,加上復健比賽也要等到九月初 才能回來。九 月中是比較合理的估計,如果 Yankees 在八月的時候競爭無望,王可能會被直接 shut down,今年球季不要求他回來。

王建民過去兩年的 WARP1 都是7.1,如果接下來他都有這樣的水準,Yankees 使用一個 replacement player 大概會少掉三到四勝。不過他受傷的時間點對 Yankees 還算幸運,最近賽程輕鬆,打線的火力又逐漸升溫,而且 Joba Chamberlain 慢慢的成長為一個真正的先發投手,不再受到各種 pitch count 的限制。這段賽程結束後 Ian Kennedy 差不多也該回來了。我對他的期望雖然不深,不過他也不是上 DL 前的成績所顯示的那麼差的投手,他應該要是個稱職的四、五號投手才對。再過一陣子 Phil Hughes 也該回來,這兩個年輕人的能力比他們在球季開始時的表現出來的成績要好,應該可以提供超過 replacement level 的貢獻。換句話說,失去王建民的損失可能只有兩場球左右,或許這個數字還要加一或減一。

Yankees 今年進不進的了季後賽還在未定之天,不過他們沒有需要為了失去王建民而緊張,也不需要在這個時 間點犧牲過多 新秀去換 Bedard 或 Sabathia 回來。時間是在他們這一邊的,他們可以等一等再做決定。


Translation: Take off you Hoser! dont mess wit our rights and stuff eh!

07-14-2008 , 04:28 AM
I'm not your buddy, guy!
07-14-2008 , 05:16 AM
eh....we're all headed toward totalitarian control...enjoy the ride
07-14-2008 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
I'm not your buddy, guy!
Im not your guy Friend!!
07-14-2008 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by The 13th 4postle
Im not your guy Friend!!
I'm not your friend Pal !!!!
07-14-2008 , 08:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vezzy
Instead of doing the hard work of building a truly tolerant society, we thought we could wave a magic wand, and legislate bad feelings out of existence.
America is 100x ahead of canada in that department. I can't understand how you could think canada is worse than america in this department.

      
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