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Originally Posted by Riverman
Sorry for the relatively serious answer, but I think we are going to be fine. "Fine" as in "will survive some very serious ****," of course. Eventually there will be an economic crisis that Trump will be totally hopeless in responding to; there will be a foreign policy crisis that Trump will e totally hopeless in responding to; on and on. The GOP will amp up their war on voting. They will have the courts mostly stacked. But **** if this country didn't endure George W. Bush and somehow make it through. If you think about it, W. was WAY worse than Trump - he actually got all those horrific GOP policies enacted into law, while starting a war for no reason. I'm with Warren Buffet: we've got this.
Gotta fade the next 15-20 years imo, should be better after that
Boomers and older getting more unhinged and conservative, everyone born after 1965 not falling into right wing pit of despair.
Can be a lot of damage in the next 20 years tho. Also it's quite easy to see how some downside scenarios are true crises and really bad calamities.
As I've said before ITT/recently, think the next 15-20 years will be worse in a lot of ways -- specifically how the law gets applied, authority gets used, laws get executed -- moreso than like outright civil war or total Republican seizure of government.
I think this image shows the discord. There's going to be a bunch of olds, mostly white, with tons of accumulated wealth and an army of sympathetic boomer-aged politicians like Trump with the police by their side. Some may be quite reactionary. Look at how the GOP caucus is increasingly unhinged. They will have allies from outside of cities and others who are losing in the new global economy.
On the other side are increasingly restive youth that looks and thinks far differently than the olds. They're largely in cities. They'll have a set of petite bourgeois college educated liberal allies in the management and white collar professions.
That process has been in motion for some time now anyway. It's likely were in the middle of it rather than at the dawn of a new era. It's the backend of the Reagan Revolution -- the grasping and clutching at white identity, revulsion at basically any elements of the welfare state and government action that aren't singularly beneficial to old whites and a highly aggressive foreign policy.
I think some people see this as hopeful, like oh well just gotta survive until the olds die off. But as I said, you have to respect the notion that on the downside are genuine calamitous environment with a lot of violence and destruction.
I think as someone who is in their mid 30s with kids and stuff, I don't know that I would choose to live in an Unraveling --> Crisis era on the Strauss Howe generational timeline and hope you sort of head in your golden years on some sort of rebuild. But that has to be a likely outcome for people around our age.