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The US is detaining refugees and asylum seekers and forcibly separating families The US is detaining refugees and asylum seekers and forcibly separating families

07-16-2018 , 09:10 AM
When/if this nightmare is over, hopefully history will remember the kid torturers and hold their feet to the fire.
07-16-2018 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
When/if this nightmare is over, hopefully history will remember the kid torturers and hold their feet to the fire.
40% of the country considers those monsters heroes.
07-17-2018 , 12:47 AM
I'm conflicted because this **** should not be funny.


https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1019071696077238272
07-18-2018 , 01:58 PM
Thread on the opaque, constantly evolving bureaucratic maze around visiting detained immigrants.



https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/s...26943374856192
07-18-2018 , 02:19 PM
new game: real or Kafka
07-19-2018 , 03:56 PM
07-19-2018 , 04:39 PM
That letter is awesome.
07-20-2018 , 11:04 AM
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The ad hoc procedures the government has created to respond to this judicial decree have offered proof that it never intended for families to be brought back together. On Wednesday, Democratic members of the House Judiciary presented further such evidence. Ranking member Jerrold Nadler—along with Reps. Elijah Cummings and Bennie Thompson—released a joint statement saying that the Trump administration told them there had been no plan to reunite the children prior to the judicial order by Judge Sabraw last month.
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This is a question that should haunt this country for years: Did our government plan to make effective orphans of thousands of children who came here with loving parents?

Again, the plain answer seems to be: “Yes.”
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...permanent.html
07-20-2018 , 05:32 PM
Does anybody else think that this policy may have created a few future terrorists? Put gov't officials and their families at risk for retaliation? These kids are scarred for life, gonna grow up f'd up in the head...Isn't kidnapping tourists a thing on foreign soil?
07-22-2018 , 02:17 PM
The possible secondary effects of a policy that is akin spiritually and morally to nazism are completely beside the point.
07-22-2018 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
Does anybody else think that this policy may have created a few future terrorists? Put gov't officials and their families at risk for retaliation? These kids are scarred for life, gonna grow up f'd up in the head...Isn't kidnapping tourists a thing on foreign soil?
tbh any families affected by this will have a legit grievance and fair cause to want to kill Americans.

If my home town was taken over by psychopaths so I decided to take my family to another town lest they be murdered/raped, and that other town had a BORDER PATROL that took my wife and children from me and threw them in cages, and I couldn't find them for months and when we were eventually reunited they were horribly scarred both physically and mentally, I'd be ready for some killing.
07-22-2018 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
tbh any families affected by this will have a legit grievance and fair cause to want to kill Americans.

If my home town was taken over by psychopaths so I decided to take my family to another town lest they be murdered/raped, and that other town had a BORDER PATROL that took my wife and children from me and threw them in cages, and I couldn't find them for months and when we were eventually reunited they were horribly scarred both physically and mentally, I'd be ready for some killing.
Bonus points for funding the psychopaths with their insatiable illicit drug appetite and ridic policies around them.
07-23-2018 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
tbh any families affected by this will have a legit grievance and fair cause to want to kill Americans.

If my home town was taken over by psychopaths so I decided to take my family to another town lest they be murdered/raped, and that other town had a BORDER PATROL that took my wife and children from me and threw them in cages, and I couldn't find them for months and when we were eventually reunited they were horribly scarred both physically and mentally, I'd be ready for some killing.
You left out the part about illegally crossing a border into another country.
07-23-2018 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
You left out the part about illegally crossing a border into another country.
Children.
07-23-2018 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
You left out the part about illegally crossing a border into another country.
You mean the misdemeanor? I wonder if you have ever commited a misdemeanor with a less urgent incentive...
07-23-2018 , 02:25 AM
FWIW - actual terrorism seems to be more a product of religious or other extremism. W/o those, damaging someone as a child just seems to bring strong resentment.
07-23-2018 , 02:31 AM
You know, operated any vehicle any distance while any amount over the legal BAC, marijuana possession, cutting down a Christmas tree without a license, trespassing on protected park land, riding a bike or motorcycle where it is prohibited, transported a knife that was concealed...lotta times even a kitchen knife qualifies, had a bonfire during a restriction, illegal fireworks....you know, a good old american long weekend ffs.
07-23-2018 , 02:33 AM
And I’ll take an infraction to add you piece of ****ing ****.
07-23-2018 , 02:48 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...idnappers.html

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Government says parents of nearly HALF of kids younger than 5 taken at the border can't have them back because they're child abusers, kidnappers and murderers – and others aren't actually parents
07-23-2018 , 02:51 AM
Committing a misdemeanor has a penalty. For illegals, that's deportation. They don't get to say "Okay you caught me committing a misdemeanor" and stay in the country.
07-23-2018 , 03:08 AM
So if by far your best chance to help your family was to commit a misdemeanor - you wouldn't do it? You sound like you'd make a really ****ty father.
07-23-2018 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
There's nothing in that article that links to anything anyone has said.
07-23-2018 , 03:17 AM
lol we got a real live CBP defender ITT
07-23-2018 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
lol we got a real live CBP defender ITT
Don't want to get your children tortured and scarred for life? Don't commit a misdemeanor. It's not that hard folks.

I'm sure pig4bill would feel the same way if someone tortured him as punishment for his weed habit, or failing to signal before changing lanes, or sodomy, or throwing pickle juice on a trolley (note: only in Rhode Island).
07-23-2018 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Committing a misdemeanor has a penalty. For illegals, that's deportation. They don't get to say "Okay you caught me committing a misdemeanor" and stay in the country.
You are making this up. If you commit a misdemeanor and present yourself for asylum not only is the penalty NOT deportation, that isn’t even what is being ****ing debated right now. Indefinite incarceration and having your children separated and ALSO incarcerated in neglectful and abusive circumstances without any plan to be reunited is the penalty that is being administered presently. That doesn’t even happen to felons in other circumstances, and for sure not to shoplifters and other people who commit what the law has determined is a petty offense. When these same people were released with a court date they almost always showed up to it because despite your uninformed fantasies about who they are and what their motives are, they want help.

      
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