Those pesky Americans, they're at it again. Stealing babies.

This is horrific. You see she was working in a chicken processing plant?

You all should read this article on that industry if you haven't already.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-chicken-plant

Sure, totally cool and normal, illegal immigrants don't have the right to be parents, thisisfine

That is monstrous. Am I reading it right though and that the story is from July 2012?

Yeah, I didn't see that. She was arrested in 2007!

Immigration policy has sucked for a while. Since at least 1996.

We can probably just stop at, "He was a black guy."

I think if Obama was an Uncle Ruckus sort of character, white people would have loved him.

"Yeah I think black people are inferior but that Uncle Ruckus is one of the good ones!", I could imagine a southern white guy say about a black guy who hates black people such as Ben Carson.

Federal District Court Judge issues Nationwide Injunction preventing separation of families (unless parent is unfit), and requiring all families be reunited within 14 days if child is under 5, within 30 days for everyone else: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000...f-7fbbdf010001

Ah good, a loophole that totally won't be exploited.

I know.

"Hey, you risked your child's life by coming to America? You're an unfit parent!"

I totally expect this ruling to be followed in good faith and in a timely fashion.

It's shocking and hilarious (of course it's actually neither of those) how the generic discussion over the last year has went like this:

Republican: Trump is finally gonna get tough on immigration, unlike that pansy Obama!
Democrat: Actually, Obama deported more than any of his predecessors.
Rep: That's BS, and I thought you were against that.
Dep: Yes, I actually thought it was pretty shameful.
Rep: Sure, right. Anyway it's BS. Obama was soft on immigration

...

Dem: This Trump policy is pretty horrific.
Rep: Are you kidding me? Obama was the Deporter-in-Chief!
Dem:

You can't deal with stupid people. Trying to talk sense to nonsense will always be a losing battle.

This 'crisis' on the southern border is exactly that. It's 100% a made up crisis of the right wing's creation. They started 'zero tolerance' enforcement without a plan -- of any kind -- for what to do about the consequences, and now it's blown up in their face.

Meanwhile the reality is that by far the easiest and cheapest solution is to just let the people in. Like the US already lets in something like 1.2 MILLION immigrants every year, which over a 10-year period is more than 10 MILLION people. In that context what the hell difference does a few thousand make?

But because the right wing is stupid, they'll spend billions of dollars on patrol and enforcement and for what, to stop people who want to come in and contribute to the economy, just like the other 300+ million immigrants who are already there.

Like now Paul Ryan is claiming that Medicare and Social Security are broke and that their funding needs to be cut, when in the meantime all the people who want to come in and help pay for them are being stopped at the border.

It's literally the dumbest policy on planet earth.

dino,

They don't want the legal immigrants either, unless maybe they are from Norway.

...until the first time they interact with a Norwegian immigrant, where they will do a bad impression of the Swedish chef and tell the person to go back to Switzerland.

I am in an agitate state right now trying not to go nuclear on a former work acquaintance who I made the mistake fo testing my restraint against on Facebook. One of his quotes, that his wife hearted:

This mother****er. He has been on disability for most of the last decade as a man in his thirties for arthritis. He drinks 2 bottles of wine a day minimum. He has no kids. He lives in a 5 bedroom house in an expensive suburb with just his wife. He carries a gun with no CCP. He and his wife are giant pot-heads and have been for a lot longer than it has been legal.

I bowed out of the conversation because my only point was to refute incorrect the points of fact he was posting so other uninformed people would not read them unchallenged, but it is taking everything in my power to not eviscerate him on that comment.

Like, pretty cool you and your wife have determined what you would do for your hypothetical kid if you lived in a town taken over by an American trade enriched drug cartel in Honduras, cuz like, border laws should not be broken. How many glasses of wine and joints into the evening were you when you performed this thought exercise from the safety of your beautiful mansion after a hard day of hard work and striving for all you have?

Sessions is right. Radicalization is coming.

Incredibly, most of the deplorables I know are Vietnamese. Not incredible that is my exposure or sample, incredible to me that families I know, my wife's and her friend's specifically, have a dissconnect here. My wife's mom is a full-on deplorable. but they fled Vietnam when my wife and her siblings were age 10 and under, risked everything and were stopped once before they were successful, she is now cheering this admin on with no understanding that they are not viewed differently than the current targets and would have been the scapegoat in their time.

Further, there are PLENTY of faces to be eaten in this group because the legality of the way many instances of chain migration in their immediate community was executed is.....questionable and unlikely to hold up under the promised future scrutiny.

Johnny:

"They just want the American dream of collecting disability checks on their fat asses all day, same as you"

Let that bridge burn and smile as it falls

His wife is the sister of one of my best friends. I have already burned a few bridges adjacent to those important to people I care about. My wife's best friend's husband for one. The value I gained, not having to interact with him ever again, can be obtained without the pain it caused via collateral damage.

That is shrinking as an important aspect of life to guard lately, though. An unexpected factor in the GTFO calculation, that may be more urgent than the other obvious ones, is if I am going to be able to keep myself out of trouble if I stay here.

This is a long standing American immigrant tradition, the only real difference is we're actually trying to stop new immigrants from coming in to give the old ones a scapegoat.

The normal argument I hear from first-generation immigrants is, "I got here legally. Why can't they?"

It's so goddamn annoying to hear.

The arrest of 500 women seems like it should be a huge story, but I didn't see any coverage at all. Ofc there was the shooting, but c'mon.

I thought the first response was pretty lol, but then I looked into the qanon thing and just wow. There is some serious nuttery going on in this country.


https://twitter.com/usa_shellym/stat...33450698080256

I'm not normally a depressive person at all, but it's getting to where my reaction to Shelly there is something like: People may suck a lot, but at least life is short and meaningless.

This is a common misconception, that the morons are more tolerant of the first world immigrants. In fact, they are too stupid to tell the difference anyway. I'm a first world immigrant where I live, and my coworkers always tell me "you're not really an immigrant", but I still have problems with people because I have an accent, I've been attacked twice on the street, I've been sent home to my country countless times, etc. Often they assume I'm Romanian (In Europe this is like being from Mexico). Imagine how it is for Africans. At least in my case the police don't shake me down all the time.

I strongly recommend not clicking through to the rest of her Twitter feed.