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The US is detaining refugees and asylum seekers and forcibly separating families The US is detaining refugees and asylum seekers and forcibly separating families

06-25-2018 , 12:35 PM
Even liberals are shook over the Red Hen action. I hope this sends a signal to activists and potential activists everywhere that this stuff really does work.



One of the biggest social taboos is that white people are supposed to stick together. You know the old story, the uncle at Thanksgiving says some really horrible racist **** every year but you're supposed to love him because he's from a different generation and all that. If white people would actually say no more, you've crossed too many lines with your bull****, and finally stop being civil with these people, I feel it would be an incredibly positive development.
06-25-2018 , 12:59 PM
From Nancy Pelosi that's bad and is really her picking sides (the other side) and not a call for peace. She's the constant victim of uncivil outrage. She has probably gotten a pile of death threats every day for the last decade.
06-25-2018 , 01:28 PM


Can't wait to see Nancy's strong tweet about this.
06-25-2018 , 02:13 PM
People are constantly jumping at these stories when they focus on the fact that innocent people are being detained in internment camps for seeking asylum.

Sure they aren't taking children from their parents. But now they're just detaining them together. That needs to be called out.

As for people like Pelosi, they know that if getting kicked out of restaurants becomes the norm for right-wing politicians, it will become the norm for them as well. So it's in their best interests to keep things civil so their lives aren't affected.

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06-25-2018 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
People are constantly jumping at these stories when they focus on the fact that innocent people are being detained in internment camps for seeking asylum.

Sure they aren't taking children from their parents. But now they're just detaining them together. That needs to be called out.

As for people like Pelosi, they know that if getting kicked out of restaurants becomes the norm for right-wing politicians, it will become the norm for them as well. So it's in their best interests to keep things civil so their lives aren't affected.
There's no way that Nancy Pelosi dares set foot in an Appleby's in Arkansas as is. Such is life. SHS has plenty of such places to eat. The difference here is that libruls are nicer. In the Arkansas Appleby's Pelosi will be threated and maybe shot. At worst SHS gets called a Nazi and told to leave if she goes to a restaurant in a librul city.
06-25-2018 , 03:16 PM
Nah. Those people act tough but when there are consequences to their actions, they don't act quite as tough unless they're with a gang of their buddies and an arsenal.

If there's a risk of that happening, I doubt any politician walks around that place without a security detail.
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There's no way that Nancy Pelosi dares set foot in an Appleby's in Arkansas as is. Such is life. SHS has plenty of such places to eat. The difference here is that libruls are nicer. In the Arkansas Appleby's Pelosi will be threated and maybe shot. At worst SHS gets called a Nazi and told to leave if she goes to a restaurant in a librul city.
06-25-2018 , 03:32 PM
I think the hesitation comes from the notion, which a lot of people believe, but no one will say, is that large swaths of Republicans don't see liberals as legitimate human beings and so not serving Sanders because Trump is kidnapping babies to hold them hostage because it's beyond the pale of human decency means that Republicans will not serve liberals period because a 2% tax hike to pay for road repairs is the road to serfdom or more colloquially, communism.
06-25-2018 , 04:36 PM
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Good response but the effort to how-much-it-will-be-listened-to ratio is extremely poor in this situation, should have stuck with "hate has no place on your page but you support Donald Trump"
Good call. I posted that reply then went to Spanish class for 4 hours - half expecting some kind of vigorous debate with at least attempts at cogent rebuttals - that I'd then be obligated to engage in.

Here's the replies:

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Easy solution don't bring your kids while committing a crime. There wasn't that very easy?

Dont bring them while drunk driving or doing a driveby, don't bring them while shop lifting cigs or robbing a bank just don't bring them. You know before you leave they will be taken so why is it our fault? NO it is the parents fault for any damage or truma. It takes alot of planning and money to get from central/south america to the border. These parents know and deliberately risk their childs safety for economic gain. And if they do need amnesty EVERY COUNTRY in the americas has US counselets to go to and file as well as all the border crossings.

AND before you go on the typical oh you are a racist, anti this or anti that i am married to a brassillian national so I see EXACTLY what,why and how it happens.
Well that sure addressed my point that torturing kids isn't really a fair punishment. Clearly he paid attention.

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Ok then.

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After 8 years of a super liberal black president the modern American liberals think they have the run of the country. They've been acting like a bunch of petulant children who didn't get their way. They didn't count on the conservatives raising their voices to be heard and they're losing in every way and now they have become nasty because that's what someone does when they are losing.
Welp, not getting sucked into this one.
06-25-2018 , 05:58 PM
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Well that sure addressed my point that torturing kids isn't really a fair punishment. Clearly he paid attention.
I think if you're going to debate these people (dubious) you gotta go to the extreme immediately so they get the point. Because otherwise they always want to reply with this idiotic "don't break the law if you don't want it to happen" shtick.

Maybe Socratic method it -- do you think it would be appropriate to gas the kids to death because their parents crossed the border illegally?

Or yeah, maybe save yourself the time and don't engage.
06-25-2018 , 06:05 PM
I thought that's exactly what I did. But it's always tough when one side is aggressively impervious to logical arguments.
06-25-2018 , 06:11 PM
I'm sure Offerman just loves that meme
06-25-2018 , 07:46 PM
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I'm sure Offerman just loves that meme
I heard him on NPR talking about how said it was to see internet libertarian types who didn’t really get that people were supposed to laugh at Ron Swanson so he’s prob used to it.
06-25-2018 , 10:37 PM
The mind of Trump supporters are terrifying things. This is from the same thread I posted this morning. Gotta love the end when Mr. Peace and Love for all Trumpfan sides with the guy spewing deranged hatred rants totally unprovoked.







06-25-2018 , 10:44 PM
**** trump
06-25-2018 , 10:47 PM
rofl

no hate on my page, but liberals are dumb parasites and it's correct to hate them
06-25-2018 , 10:52 PM
"Liberals started it when we followed Obama's advice and won a election"

"?" indeed
06-25-2018 , 10:52 PM
I still don't know what Obama did to deteriorate race relations.
06-25-2018 , 11:10 PM
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I still don't know what Obama did to deteriorate race relations.
He was a black guy who did things to help non-white people.
06-25-2018 , 11:18 PM
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I still don't know what Obama did to deteriorate race relations.
Racism was solved when Martin Luther King said I have been dreaming on the mountain top. After that black people were perfectly content and happy for decades. Then Obama said elections have consequences and I'm gonna stick it to small town whites clinging to their guns and religion. So he got black people all agitated about Obamaphones and teachable moments and wishing Trayvon Martin was his son. Then Ferguson exploded because BLM thugs.

Now Trump has to fix the mess. Deal with it libtards.
06-25-2018 , 11:39 PM
06-25-2018 , 11:40 PM
The really eyebrow raising bit for me was the assertion that Obama is vociferously criticizing Trump.
06-25-2018 , 11:55 PM
Well if you watch FoxNews all day I'm sure that's the message.
06-25-2018 , 11:56 PM


Great article about MS-13 - separating truth from fiction.
06-25-2018 , 11:58 PM
Msnbc was blurring that girl's face. Who posted it?
06-26-2018 , 12:01 AM
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