https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/...n-801634371744

Not a poll. Not a result from MSNBC. gjge

lol wait, it's a secret?

also, hulk hogan gimmick never disappoints

that's not an msnbc poll. have a shower

https://twitter.com/thecontemptor/st...95576241545217

It's only a secret if you've never been there.

Your gut reaction is wrong.

I haven't a clue how people who voted Trump see this. I don't actually care either it's wrong.

It's been disclosed that these children have been abused in these centers beaten and had hoods put on their heads.

http://time.com/5318165/juvenile-imm...se-shenandoah/
This should make people totally adjust the way they see the American police and all social services. Something is not right.

I wouldn't put it past Trump supporters to be fine with this.

I wouldn't hold my breath ...the executive order Trump has signed only lasts 20 days ..they will do it again. And it's been stated it's not going to help those separated.

This reversal is nothing ...a mere blip in the grand plan.

Sample size of one I know, but my dad has just been posting a slew of whataboutism the last few days and then said he'd still vote for Trump over Clinton. Like, I'm pretty sure he doesn't like the kids being separated, but it's not gonna change anything for him.

I hope he is not representative, but I'm not feeling too optimistic about that.

It's polarizing. The question is how it polls in purple states/areas. It may help get rid of some California Republicans, but it may help Trump in the midwest.

Hopefully it won't be Clinton in 2020.

They're fine, for the most part, with it. Problem is that it breaks through the noise for "moderate" (i.e., clueless) disengaged and absolutely turbocharges the partisans. No one seems to have told Trump that turnout is 75% on the battle in mid-terms. Since day 1 Trump has gone as hard as possible to maximally rustle the 51% of the country. It's a bold strategy, and we'll see how it pays off.

I would be surprised if it does anything for Trump. He had those votes, and tearing kids from mothers is not a good look, even if your supporters believe "in the abstract" in law and order. Fact is, they don't really know what they believe. They just suck and were conned by a conman, who also conned himself.

I've seen some good data in the last week that the country is kinda split between wanting fairly open immigration and some level of significant restriction. The folks supporting Trump's hard line are basically a fraction of the GOP, but Trump is a racist and thinks demagoguing immigration is electoral gold.

A lot can happen between now and Nov., most of it bad for Trump, but he'll be pulling out all the stops like Gallagher at a bachelorette party. I would be somewhat surprised if he doesn't start some significant military conflict.

A recent article noted that he sticks to immigration because it at least remains a wedge issue, even if not great for him. The republicans live or die based on wedge issues, and they're running out of ammo. I mean, when you're down to transgender bathrooms, brown people fleeing violence, campus speech, and cake baking for gays, you pretty much need to go back to the drawing board.

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/...04678688714753

the EO does not last 20 days - that's the max children can be detained.

100% chance children will be detained for more than 20 days. You'll probably deny that and act as if you agree that the children shouldn't be detained for more than 20 days, but when it happens you'll say the administration has the right to do and is right to do it and that they obviously need to be held until the SCOTUS clears it up.

and what happens when the parents are detained while they wait for trial for several months, and the children are to be no longer detained? could you say the families would be... separated? at that point?

and as a follow-up, what do you think the executive order regarding "family separation" accomplishes beyond 20 days from its signing?

That would be the worst-kept secret in America imo.

No this is my whole mother's side of the family, but mine aren't trying too hard to even pretend to empathize. The olds are even of the opinion it's all a moral panic because donchaknow Obama did it too and the damn dastardly libruls just wanna distract from the MAGAing with NKorea and jerbs.

This guy's starting to feel like all foreplay no f***ing.

I'm just assuming when Fox gets done, he's going to view any Democratic nominee as being as bad or worse than Hillary.

whats up with the tinfoil blankets?

The story is that they are disposable emergency blankets and they didn't use the standard wool blankets to prevent the spread of scabies, lice and such. Not saying that's why, but that's the reason I heard given.